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Undergraduate Council
Minutes of Meeting
October 21, 1999
Attending: J. Earl, W. Gottshall, R. Koch, J. Long, K. Nicholson,
J. Nicols, M. Partch, S. Ponder, S. Pratt, J. Rice, M. Smith, J. Wade,
R. Zimmerman
Absent: F. Chadwell, H. Chereck, P. Engelking, M. Gleason, A. Leavitt
Meeting began at 8:15 am.
Process for Change: Task Force Projects for 2000
Karen Sprague, Task Force Leader, discussed
the proposed mentoring project, seeking advice from the UC mainly dealing
with budget constraints. The purpose of the project is to provide every
freshman with the opportunity to get started with close association
with a small group of students and a faculty member. The purpose is
not to replace pathways and/or FIGS, but to "take up the slack." The
mentoring program would be a combination of things now done in Freshmen
Seminars. The purpose would be for the freshmen to have a small course
experience when enrolling in a regular course to satisfy a requirement
for general education or a major. The course would be led by a regular
faculty member, and the faculty member would not only lecture but become
a mentor to the students.
It is estimated the program would cost the equivalent of 30 additional
faculty. It is hoped that a pilot program would be started and involve
five units on campus, including those from CAS and the professional
schools. The pilot program would involve courses already being taught
of which the class can be divided into four or five sections each taught
by a separate faculty member. It is estimated this would be $300,000
to $500,000, depending on the intensity of the mentoring activities.
The question posed to the UC was should the task force push ahead even
though there are budgetary constraints, or should they delay. Karen
indicated that it would take a year to plan the pilot, and then a year
to find out what works. At the present time, it is possible to get the
required funds for the pilot.
Some of the questions posed by members:
a) Would the $300,000 to $500,000 cover the pilot only? Yes,
this is the minimum for the pilot to be effective.
b) Would a class of 200 be broken down into 8 sections? Yes,
with 4 sections going to separate mentors.
c) How will faculty be paid? Faculty would be paid on an
overload basis. This would be over their usual teaching course.
It was noted that the ultimate goal would be
to hire new faculty, but what departments would get the new faculty?
K. Nicholson stated that pilot programs usually go to the larger departments,
and the smaller departments with large lecture courses are unable to
have discussion sessions due to lack of money. She suggested putting
the money available toward discussion sessions. J. Earl indicated that
he was in favor of the proposal in theory, but the money needed for
the pilot is too high given other problems on campus. He indicated he
is committed to opposing any proposal asking for teaching on an overload
basis, and he is against keeping salaries low and offering more money
if teaching is increased while still trying to maintain a research profile.
An initiative to raise salaries by small increments does not address
the big problem. K. Sprague indicated that the full program would not
be done on an overload basis.
M. Smith asked if the money for the pilot would be coming from
a grant or the administration. K. Sprague indicated that grants are
being written for pathways, and some of that money would be diverted
to the mentoring project. In addition, private money would be used to
support the project.
J. Rice asked about the different projects that were discussed;
namely, expanding FIGS. K. Sprague indicated that the task force did
not consider expanding FIGS, and pathways cannot be extended. In a question
posed by S. Pratt concerning the goals for the proposed project, K.
Sprague indicated that the goal would be happier students who are able
to figure out what the academic environment is about. He also asked
if the task force had examined research on retention to which she replied
that J. Moseley had considered those estimates and is trying to project
the long-range financial impact. J. Nicols commented that mentoring
would be useful to students but the "allure" diminishes, and he did
not know whether mentoring can be justified. Karen reiterated the pilot
would be the experiment to see if more mentoring can be justified. J.
Nicols also indicated that a project similar to this was tried about
15 years ago. There were no perceived advantages so it was abandoned.
In addition, a similar project was tried in Chemistry and was also abandoned.
It was also noted that the push to do this would be extra pay,
not the educational value. Another suggestion was to reassign all faculty
to have some freshmen advisees. Also, it was suggested that faculty
require their freshmen students to see them. It was noted that students
who see faculty on a regular basis do better than those who do not.
In addition, it was recommended that graduate students participate in
this effort.
Another question asked was what is done when classes are full and
the freshman student cannot enter? Karen admitted this is a problem,
but the pilot program should answer that question.
On the whole, the UC liked the concept but were questioning the
funding. If there is money to get new faculty, why not use those funds
to retain the people we are losing now? Again, Karen indicated the pilot
should answer this question.
Karen indicated she concluded that the UC would rather provide
adequate discussion sessions. She will get together with the task force
members and then advise the UC of the next steps.
Multimedia Proposal
The proposal was distributed to the members
prior to the meeting. Questions and/or comments:
a) 19 new courses are proposed, but only hiring 3.0 FTE
b) This is the most comprehensive proposal the Council has seen,
as it would be starting a new program. A very important proposal for
the UC to examine.
c) May not be possible to have it in place by Fall 2000. May be
some confusion on the timing. Must go through the college and university
course committees.
General Education Requirements
J. Long indicated that the proposals passed
the Senate. Should the UC start thinking about a global change? D. Koch
cautioned the UC that group requirements should be changed slowly. J.
Long will follow up with Jim Buch regarding the accreditation report.
Other Issues the UC Should Pursue This Year
Suggestions made:
a) FIG experience should be a requirement for all freshmen.
b) Admission policies and practices: have Director of Admissions
give an overview to UC.
c) SRC and ARC issues.
d) Graduate credits for undergraduate student: increase from 9 to
12 (leftover from 3-4 credit conversion).
e) Policy decision that only 4 credit classes will be included in
list of classes approved for general education requirement
Meeting adjourned at 9:05 am
Minutes submitted by Carol White
Undergraduate Council, 5256 University of Oregon (541)
346-1221 Last Update:
October 15, 2001
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