Attending: H. Chereck, J. Earl, H. Gerdes, J. Long, K. Nicholson,
J. Nicols, M. Partch, S. Ponder, S. Pratt, J. Rice, M. Smith, R. Zimmerman
Absent: F. Chadwell, P. Engelking, M. Gleason, W. Gottshall,
R. Koch, A. Leavitt
Guests: James Buch (Associate Vice President for Student Academic
Affairs) David Hubin (Executive Assistant to the President)
The meeting began at 8:05 am with introductions.
Admissions Office - J. Buch
J. Buch indicated that he was asked to attend a UC meeting to explain
or clear up admissions issues dealing with evaluation, mainly about
evaluation of transfer credits. He indicated that this is a legitimate
concern and the UC should be involved. He also indicated that this is
a troubling issue, and at the present time there is no place where Admissions
can go to get advice. He noted that the Academic Requirements Committee
(ARC) gives Admissions guidance in the form of student petitions; but
since the ARC is not a policy-setting body, where does Admissions go?
What should Admissions look for to constitute baccalaureate credit?
Buch cited some examples of vocational and technical credit students
have received at other institutions and when they come to the UO and
change their major, what happens to those credits? But he did indicate
that the state allows up to 12 credits to be transferred as a block.
Buch also noted that it used to be easy to distinguish transfer from
baccalaureate credit from community colleges because they had alpha
and numerical indicators, but they have abandoned that system and now
all credits have alpha and numerical indicators.
Another item Buch spoke about was the articulation agreements with
the community colleges. The community colleges give Associate of Arts
Oregon Transfer (AAOT) degrees, and the students who have these degrees
meet a common set of standards. In the late 1980's, the legislature
set up a Joint Board of Articulation Commission composed of high level
administrators. One of the rules set was that if a student achieves
an AAOT and transfers to a four-year institution, the degree may not
be "unwrapped", and it is considered that all general education requirements
are satisfied. But, if a student matriculates at the UO, is here for
a year, then goes to a community college and completes the AAOT, and
returns to the UO, the UO rules must apply because the student matriculated
here. In this instance, the UO does not recognize the AAOT. The UO is
the only institution of the OUS that has that rule. Another problem
that arises is credit for experiential learning. In this case, the UO
does not transfer credit.
Buch also spoke about the issues of articulation at the departmental
level. Each department establishes its own requirements for the major
and some do not accept transfer credit. In addition, in many instances,
the UO does not accept remedial credit, and problems arise for Admissions
in these cases. With all of these problems, Buch was seeking an answer
as to whom Admissions should turn for advice.
J. Earl summarized the points talked about as being two issues: one
about a general policy for transfer packages, and the other case-by-case
problems. He indicated that the general policy should be reviewed.
Another issue Buch raised was that of college-high. There is a policy
that is still on hold stating that if credit is received in high school
for college courses taught by high school teachers, it has to be validated
by a third party (for example, a statewide test), or the student must
demonstrate competence on campus.
Buch indicated that he will give the UC a copy of the AAOT requirements.
He also indicated that for the AAOT, Speech is required along with three
terms of writing. Buch suggested that the UC have a further discussion
about transfer policies, and J. Nicols suggested having a subgroup of
the UC work with Buch to develop an agenda. J. Earl was opposed to a
subcommittee, and indicated since he is on the ARC, he would volunteer.
Other volunteers were Hilary Gerdes and Herb Chereck.
General Education Requirements
At this point, Buch asked what specifically the UC wanted to know.
J. Long replied that the UC was reviewing the Accreditation Team's report
to see if we have complied with their findings in the area of general
education requirements. The UC has created a purpose statement and a
list of regulations that departments must follow when submitting new
courses for general education requirements. Have we satisfied the team's
recommendations? D. Hubin indicated that when the team reviews the UO
again, we can show them that we have taken steps to follow their recommendations
for coherence in our requirements. One of the concerns the UO has is
that if we haven't complied with the recommendations and we do not get
accredited, we will not receive federal dollars, thus no financial aid
and grant money for students. Some of the questions each institution
has to answer is, "What is our education plan?" and "Are we effective
in what we want to achieve?" How do we get our faculty to "buy into"
general education requirements? Do we have too many courses which satisfy
the requirements without demonstrating coherence? Are these courses
just FTE driven? How do we remove the competition between the departments?
D.Hubin indicated that after five years, a member of the accreditation
team will return to see what we have done to comply with their recommendations.
But some members were afraid that they would pick up the "bitterness
and anger" at the department level because of cost cutting. How do we
make the departments feel comfortable? Regarding cost cutting, J.Rice
suggested that the number of courses be cut but raise the number of
students in each course, or perhaps have more sections of each course.
Buch noted that the commission is concerned about the university as
a whole, not individual departments. From the general education requirements,
what are the outcomes that all students will have mastered?
It was decided that more discussion was needed on this subject, and
the UC will continue discussions in January.
Internships - ASUO Motion (US99/00-4)
This motion (US99/00-4) will probably come before the Senate in January.
The ASUO is requesting the enrollment period for internships be extended
to 12 days instead of 8. H. Chereck indicated that internships should
be planned before the term begins. Some students do not plan early enough
and that is why the extension is being requested. One solution would
be for the student to enroll for one credit and then increase the number
of credits. The Registrar's Office will work with the departments and
exempt the few students from the $15 fee to add a course. It was decided
that the UC would oppose extending the number of days.
Meeting adjourned at 9:30 am
Minutes submitted by Carol White
Next meeting: December 2, 8:00 am, Johnson Hall Conference Room.