Lane Community College

Special

Candidates'

Election

Forum

Issue

Section B
Vo~ 6, No. 22

4000 East 30th Avenue, Eugene, Oregon 97405

April 20, 1971

On-campus concert by Iron Butterfly reiected
Iron Butterfly, an "acid-rock"
musical group, is still scheduled
to appear in Eugene May 19.
Where they will perform is uncertain, but it won't be on the
LCC campus.
In an informal decision Wednesday, April 14, LCC Board of
Education members and the colle g e administration announced
that the group would not be permitted to play on campus. Rationale for the decision was the
scheduled date, which is a Wednesday. It was feared parking
problems might develop due to
evening college class sessions.
Also, the group is expected to
draw a large crowd which might

create a traffic problem and exceed the college's 4,500 personcapacity gymnasium.
Another consideration was the
group might attract an audience
with "undesireable"-primarily,
drug-o riented--€le ments.
At the same time, permission
was given for Canned Heat,
another rock group, to appear on
campus May 30. Both groups are
nationally known and popular. It
was felt, however, that Canned
Heat would draw fewer people
and would cause less traffic and
parking problems since its performance • is scheduled on a ~unday. It was also suggested the
group, which is more ''folk-

LCC budget defeat

may limit enrollment
"I believe the public's reaction to the college levy simply
signifies they are feeling the
brunt of taxes in general, but it
could be that the college should
no longer be an open door institution.,,
That comment was made by
LCC's President Eldon Schafer
after learning that a $1.25 million
tax levy to support LCC's 197172 operating budget had been
turned down by the voters 2-l
last week. The vote was 11,592
against the levy to 5,910 in favor.
At LCC 1 s Board meeting, April
14, members informally agreed
that there was little point in
holding a second tax levy election before the end of Spring
Term, and last week's budget
defeat may mark the point at
which LCC will have to begin
seriously limiting enrollment.
Board members got a view 01
what may be the pattern of the
future if LCC has to contend·
with "tight" budgets.
The preview, a result of the
budget defeat, was in the form
of a Spring Term report presented by LCC Director of Plan-

ning and Institutional Research,
Marston Morgan.
Morgan s tat e d that Spring
Term enrollment is expected to
be some 40 to 50 full time
equivalent (FTE) below a previously projected enrollment. He
went on to say that the reduction is the result of conscious,
careful culling necessitated by
a lack of funds.
Last year LCC had to hold
three property tax levy elections
before receiving a one-year addition of $574,000 to the established operating base of $1.59
million. LCC originally sought
$1.3 million in additional taxes
in 1970, warning that enrollment
would have to be cut if the request had to be reduced.
The first indication that LCC
actually had to restrict the enrollment of any student living
within the district was brought
out at the April 14 meeting.
There was a temporary freeze
Fall Term placed on enrollment
of out-of-district students last
summer when a registration rush
raised concern that some indistrict students might be denied
admission.

OEO denies funding
for Lane Hum-an Resources
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Harold Covey, LHR's interium
executive director, said he hadn't
received a copy of the letter and
could not comment on it. He
assumed that the board will meet
to discuss the problem.
OEO officials said a hearing
will be scheduled if LHR decides
to appeal the decission. Covey
said a hearing probably will be
requested.
If LIIR'::; appeal is denied,
Degree applications
funding may be available through
the federal War on Poverty Produe from students
gram.
All LCC students completing
The letter stated that the couna program in June, 1971, who are ty's Head Start Program, which
eligibile for a degree, certificate is funded through LHR, won't
or diploma must fill out an ap- be affected by the withdrawal
plication for the degree as soon of support.
as possible.
LHR applied for $370,000 for
In no program is a degree, its yearly budget beginning March
cerHffoate, or diploma issued au- I. The agency has been opertomatically. Students should ap- ating on month-to-month extenply in the Student Records Of- sions by OEO since March.
fice, second floor of the Center
County Commissioners KenBuilding.
neth Omlid and Nancy Hayward
Students who are uncertain feel there is a need for an antiwhether they qualify for a de- poverty program in Lane County
gree, certificate or dip 1om a and that local government agenshould check their status with cies should work together to find
the Student Records Office.
a solution.
Lane Human Resources, the
county's anti-poverty agency for
the past five years, has been denied renewed financing by the
Office of Economic Opportunity.
LHR received notice of the
denial by a letter sent April 6
according to James Young, deputy director of the regional OEO
office in Seattle.

rock" than "acirt-rock." would
be less likely to draw an "undesireable" audience.
The Eugene appearance ofboth
groups was arranged by ASLCC
P res id en t Warren Coverdell.
Their performances are part of
a new ASLCC project by which
student leaders hope to raise at
least $6,000 before next year.
That money would be placed in a
special scholarship fund, Coverdell said, for use by students
who suffer financial hardship as
a result of the $10 per term
tuition increase passed by the
LCC Board.
Coverdell said the request for
approval of Iron Butterfly's appearance on campus had been on
the Board agenda for the April
14 meeting, but that he requested
its removal after consultation
with the administration. He expressed surprise at the item's
consideration, stating the last
information he had
was that
the item would not be brought up.
Discussion of the item occurred
at a private session.
Coverdell said he requested
that the item be removed from
the agenda because of the possibility of a Board decision not
simply on the one concert, as
was the intention of the item,
but on the question of concerts
as a whole.
The question of activities to

be permitted on campus was
raised following the recent
Grateful Dead concert, sponsored
by an off-campus group, which
posed problems of severe overcrowding and audience behavior.
A committee was formed to establish guidelines for use of LCC
facilities by both on and offcampus groups, and is currently
conducting a survey of the facilities use policies of other colleges.
Coverdell is still negotiatinp:
with the Lane County Fair Board
on the possibility of using the

fa i r g r o u n d s outdoor arena.
Should the fairgrounds be unavailable, the possibility of using
the Eugene Speedway would be
investigated.
In clarifying the administration's position, Bert Dotson, Administrative Assistant to the
President, said the primary factor was the scheduled date. Such
a concert was untenable on a
Wednesday night,
The discussion of attracting
an "undesireable" eleme~ Dotson said, was never pursued to
the point of resolution.

Bill of Rights diverted
The LCC Board of Education
ASLCC President Warren Covvoted Wed ne s day, April 14, erdell urged Board members to
against reviewing a proposed stu- continue reviewing the student
dent "Bill of Rights," favoring document, with the possibility
the drafting by an ad hoc com- of adopting it. He said that the
mittee of an all-campus docu- best procedure would be to tenment proposed by LCC Presi- tatively adopt the student docudent Eldon Schafer. •
ment until an '' institutional bill
, Schafer and members of the of rights" could be drafted at a
faculty and staff agreed the stu- later date.
Coverdell told the Board that
dent-proposed document would
be best merged into a ''unified'' in complete fairness he would
document covering faculty, staff, have to agree that an institutional bill of rights, in the long
administration and students.
Student Senate leaders pro- run, would be a more approtested the action, pointing out priate document than a single
that students have worked on student Bill of Rights.
"However, if students on this
composition of the document for
the past five or six months. committee are treated the same
as they are on other committee's
on this campus,,, he said, " .an
institutional bill of rights would
not be in the best interest of the
"'College either."
which defeated in May of 1970 a
Coverdell noted that since stuproposal to lower the voting age dents did the initial work toward
to 19--must maintain a dual re- a bill of rights, it should not
gistration system with resulting be turned over to Schafer's office.
additional cost and confusion. He added that if the drafting of
The first hearing on the rati- the new document was placed in
fication of the proposed amend- the President's 9ffice a majority
ment will be held at 1:30 p.m. of students should sit on the
Wednesday by the House State committee, with a student servand Federal Affairs Committee. ing as chairman.
Republicans have an 8-5 majority
"This would be a good opporin the committee.
tunity," Coverdell said, "to let
Earlier efforts of Democrats students take some of the rein the Legislature to persuade sponsibility that they are asking
Republicans to join in ratifica- for."
tion b ave be en unsuccessful.
Before the Board voted on the
House Republicans feel the leg- proposal, Schafer said students
islature should not ratify the .would probably be the majority
amendment because of the voter's of the committee. However, this
rejection of lowering of the vo- was not stated in the motion
ting age last year.
passed by the Board.

Amendment hearing set
A hearing has been scheduled
in Salem Wednesday, April 21, on
a proposal that Oregon ratify the
26th Amendment to the U.s. Constitution.
That p r op o s e d amendment
gives persons 18 to 20 years of
age the right to vote in all elections, both state and national.
Under present law those 18 to
20 may vote only in federal elections unless states have taken
action individually to lower the
voting age. Congress earlier adopted a bill to lower the voting
age to 18 in all elections, but
the U. s. Supreme Court ruled
the measure was valid only for
federal elections.
The result of the court opinion
is that states such as Oregon--

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LCC STUDENTS ENJOY SPRING WEATHERduran infrequent break in persistent Oregon showers.
With the arrival of good weather students took

advantage of breaks between classes and lunch
breaks.
(Photo by Hewitt Lipscomb)

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Frustration or Unity ?
The LCC Board of Education has rejected
the Student Bill of Rights and Responsibilities,
which the Student Senate has been actively working
on for the past several months, and agreed that
an "all-campus'' document was needed to·represent all segments of the college. The Board
directed that a committee be appointed immediately to begin drafting the document.
Primary responsibility, which should have remained in the hands of students who initiated the
original Bill of Rights, was placed in the office
of the college president.
The Board's action was based on a recommendation made by LCC President Eldon Schafer.
Dr. Schafer said, in part, "I have beenconcerned
that while we may succeed in developing a workable
Student Bill of Rights, Pm of the opinion that
the best interests of Lane Community College will
be served by an overall Institutional Bill of Rights
and Responsibilities encompassing the several
segments of the college family."
We have no quarrel with this recommendation.
The action of the Board in assigning primary
responsibility for drafting the document to the

office of the college president, however, is another
matter.
The Student Senate has spent countless hours
compiling research material for the Student Bill
of Rights, not to mention the time spent in drafting
the document itself.
If the Board is truly interested in a college
that will represent the needs of the students, then
it should take into consideration the amount of
effort produced by the students themselves toward
that goal. It seems Board members did not
consider this when they moved responsibility for
the Bill of Rights from the students as if they
were not to be trusted.
The Bill of Rights presented by the students,
which is basically a sound document, could have
been adopted as suggested by one of the Board
members, and with very little revision been developed into a document that would represent the
entire college community.
Action like this by the Board in the future can
do little more than create frustration and distrust, rather than unity, between the college and
students.

Shall we continue
with our
dictionary) Gort'?

!ts de~inition: ''ihe
act or pYactice o~
bloodletting as a
therapeutic
measure."

Ver~ well ...
Our next
word is:
''phlebotomy".

And its
practitioners
are, I'm sure,
called:
•phlebototttists"?

No ...

Student Forum

''Generals."

LCC's financial problems solved
by Elden Dunsmoor
Social Science
With the defeat of the LCC budget I feel these are indeed difficult times for those whose task
it is to compile masses of figures commonly known as the
_"school budget." It is indeed sad
the budget was not approved, as
there will undoubtedly have to be
some curtailment of enrollment
for the coming school year.
One who has not labored over
the compilation of so massive a
document as a school budget cannot possible know the feeling of
exhausting frustration that overwhelms one when it goes down
to defeat.
In this time of troubled economics I would like to make a suggestion for fianancing LCC that
would undoubtly meet some opposition, but with proper promotional effort expended by the P.R.
staff I feel certain this proposal
can be presented to the voting
public in such a way that would
meet with overwhelming approval
from said public.
This program would necessitate two additional courses of
study that should bring in something like $19,000,000 per year.
Obviously not all of this would
be clear profit, but surely this
prodigi_pus _su_m should yield some
clear profit. Though this program
would necessitate some rather
specialized equipment and supplies, one distinct advantage to
this proposal is that both courses
of study could use the same
classroom are a and facilities,
and simultaneously.
The first course of study I
would incorporate into the college curricula would be Bartending. This would probably
draw some of the lesser desirable elements as applicants, but
the Admissions Office could, with
proper screening, eliminate all
tipplers who if allowed into the
course would consume all the
profits, thereby destroying the

effectiveness of the program. To
teach a subject so · technical as
Bartending, it should be quite obvious to anyone given to thinking
that the next logical thing needed
would be a suitable place in which
to teach. That would have to be
a BAR!
Of course, it would be utter
folly to mix all those drinks
and just pour them down the
drain, and this is where the
plan begins to really come to
life and make sense. With the
large number of students desirous of entering so glamorous
a profession as Bartending, it
would have to be a very large
BAR! This would mean literally
gallons and gallons of booze just
waiting for adequate consideration, that for two very good
reasons you couldn't just dump
it down the drain. First, if you
did, think what it would do to
those poor unsuspecting ducks
in the lagoons. We would see
enacted in real life some of that
old drinking song," .•. if the ocean
were whiskey and 1 were a duck,
I'd swim to the bottom and never
come up." I'm quite certain nobody would want those poor ducks
to drown. I doubt there is any
need to explain the second reason. These drinks could be sold
at whatever the downtown going rate was, thereby preventing
any hard feelings from the dispensers of liquid refreshment
downtown. It is at this point that
one begins to understand where
the profits to sustain the college and permit the future anticipated growth will come from.
What with all that profit in
all that hooch, and with something over 5,000 full-time students, and enough more parttime rs to make a total of approximately 16,000 F. T.E. running around here all day and
half the night, it doesn't take
much of an imagination to get
a glimmer of how much "red
eye" could be dispensed. This

S.A.C. Housing
For these and other listings,
check with the Student Awareness Center, second floor of the
Center Building.
APARTMENT: $65/mo. 1 bdrm.
Furnished. 1242 D. St.Spfld.
Lanning Realty. 746-8267.
APARTMENT: $125/mo. 2bdrm.
Furnished. 750 E.18th, Eugene.
Ogal Realty, 686-8042.
APARTMENT: $125/mo. 1 bdrm.
Furnished. 735 E. 17th, Eugene
Lynch Realty. 342-4436.
STUDIO: $90/m o. Furnished.
1742 Ferry, Eugene. Og-al Rea-

lty, 686-8024.
TRAILER: $50/mo. Utilities extra. 1756. s. B roo kl in, Glenwood. Available May 1st. Furnished. Ben Vimont 726-7968.
ROOM: $40/mo. Male. 1235 E.
30th, Eugene. Furnished. Edith
Rolston. 686-0279.
ROOM: $50/mo. 1780 E. 25th
Eugene. Furnished. Female.
Kitchen privileges. Mrs. Elliott. 345-7687.
•More housing available. Posted
on Student Awareness Center bulletin board.

doesn't even begin to consider
all the curiosity seekers who
would come from miles around
just to see what a marvelous
c9us we have.
Cons id er fo r a moment, if
you will, at approximate 6
drinks per student per day,
at $1.00 per drink times those
16,000 students , what the daily
gross would be. That is
$96,000 per day ; with , 200
operating days per ye a r that
comes to $19,200,000.
At this point we add in the second course of study, go-go dancing. A moment's contemplation
should give some indication of
the added monetary implications.
By charging a reasonable tuition
fee (something like maybe $100
per term) an additional small sum
could be raised, perhaps enough
to cover the initial capital outlay for lounge equipment and a
reasonable supply of booze. Instead of hiring a c o m b o, the
music department could provide
that. There would have to be a
nominal cover charge for admission to the go-go 1o u n g e,
which would add a little more to
the take.
For those devoted and ardent
souls who decry exploitation of
the female as a SEX SYMBOL,
there could be a course for male
go-go dancing - hence, true equality.
Before dismissing this suggestion as frivolous folly incubated in a demented mind (caused
by over indulgence in Psych or
whatever), consider the full implications of a plan such as this.
For example, one person with
whom I discussed this plan
thought the idea could be expanded
to include a House of Ill Repute
on the fourth floor of the Center Building. Not a bad idea.
There are any number of very
advantageous facets to this plan.
l. All that money from tuition
(thousands of dollars).
2. AU that money from all that
liquid euphoric tranquilizer (millions of dollars).
3. All that money saved by the
students themsel-ves because they
would no longer need tranquilizers (thousands of dollars).
4. And here is the kicker. Think
of all the salary money saved
because there would be no need
to have counselors on the staff
because there would be no more
frustrated students because they
would all be so well oiled nothing
would bother the m. Everybody
would be tight, but no one could
accuse any one of being uptight.
With all this money making going
on, maybe it would be possible
to send some money back to the
voters.

Campus Calendar
CLUBS
Campus Crusade for Christ

Campus Crusade for Christ
will meet at 12:00 noon on Tuesday, April 12, in Forum 308, and
Thursday, April 22, in Center
406.
Christian Science Club

The Christian Science Organization will meet Tuesday, April
12, at 12:00 noon in Forum 305.
FOCUS
FOCUS will meet for Bible
study Tuesday, April 12, at 1:00
p.m. in Center 402, and at 2:0(
p.m. Friday, April 23.

to hear speakers and see films on
the drug problems. Thursday's
meeting will be held in Adm.103.
All others will be in Adm. 202.
Wednesday's session will present
two films.
Circle "K" members are also
invited to attend a no-host luncheon ,Tuesday, April 27, at ll:00
a.m. in Center 124. Dr. John
Gaines of the University of Oregon International Relations Dept.
will speak on the relationship
between the U. S. and Canada.
Theater

"John Brown's Body" will play
in the Forum Theatre at 8:00p.m.
Friday and Saturday, April 23 and
24.
Lecture on divorce

ACTIVITIES

"Legal Aspects of Divorce,''
a lecture-discussion which is
part of the Fam ii y Life DisThe Circle "K" -Club will ob- cussion Series, will be presented
serve National Drug Week by Thursday, April 22, at 7:00 p.m.
meeting daily at noon this week in Apprenticeship 223.

Circle 'K' Club

Lane Community College

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Bill Bauguess

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Feature Editor

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Head Photographer

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Advertising Manager

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Sales Manager

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by Rick Mitz
Vacation gaps
We hear much discussion about
how it is everything from drugs,
the Revolution, the Movement to
rotten dorm food that binds stu dents together.
Not true. There is one thing
that binds all students all over
the country---all over the worldtogether.
Their parents.
There usually are two of them
per student. Some students have
more, or less; but usually each
student is blessed with two. And
it's not easy for us to forget
them.
They help us select a college.
"I don't like it, Al," your
mother caws to your father.
"Don't like what, Esther?"
"This college--this Harvard
-place. What kind of school is
that for a nice boy like Our Marvin---so far away from home?"
They even give us the application fee money. They give us
money to go away to school with.
They pack our clothes carefully,
underwear and socks on the bottom, shirts and suits in the middle, and a gas mask on the top
(I mean, they read Newsweek,
they know), your mother muttering God Forbid as she closes
the mammoth trunk shut.
And finally we're gone---supposedly basking in educational
bliss, miles away from home.
Yes. We're gone. But the're still
there.
The first letter comes a day
after you've arrived, taped to
the outside of a large package.
"Dear Son, Enclosed with this
letter is a year's supply of vitamins so that you shouldn't get
a deficiency." And the letters
are always signed Your Mother
so you shouldn't think it's someone else's mother who's sending
you vitamins.
For the first few weeks of college, the letters arrive daily at.
the dorm. Then the phone calls
start coming.
"Hello, Marvin? This is your
mother."
''Oh, hi, Ma."
, ,. . "Don't 'Hi, Ma' me. Marvin, do
you know how much this phone
call is costing me?"
"Ma, you didn't have to---"
''Marvin, I know what's going
on. I know. I saw the 6 O'Clock
news tonight. I saw you sitting
in the president's ·office ·with
that bunch of roughnecks. I saw
you smoking his cigarettes and
drinking his sherry."
"Ma---"
'' Marvin, I saw. I saw it all."
''But, Ma---''
"Marvin, I want you to know-and I don't want you to feel
the least bit guilty---but you've
let your father and I down terribly---"

"Ma!"

'' I didn't know. I didn't know.
This is why we sent you away
to that fancy-shmancy $4,000 a
year college? We never thought
you'd be up to anything like this."
''Ma, I---"
''Marvin. You promised. And
you've let us down. Your father
and I are very disappointed that
you're, that you're---"
"That I'm what, Ma?"
"That you're smoking cigarettes and drinking sherry. You
promised you wouldn't, Marvin."
"But, Ma, 1---"
"So listen, Star. You looked
very nice on the TV. Maybe you
s ho u 1d go into the television

field •.. "

"Ma."

''So who was that girl you
were with? You never told your
mother about her••• "
And on and on it goes, your
Mother, having only yourbestinterests at heart. Of course.
And then there's that evening
you call home "just to talk"
and your mother's out and you
attempt to talk to your father and
mention that you're changing your
major.
"Dad?"
"Yes, Son." (He calls you Son
so that you shouldn't forget.)
"I'm changing my major from
Pre-Med to Humanities."
"To Humanities?"
"Yeah."
"What are you going to do --open up a Humanities store?''
But worse than the letters,
worse than the phone calls, are
the Vacations. There usually are
three or four a year. You come
back home exhausted from cramming b a r d a ft e r w e e k -1 o n g
exams, tired from having led
such a staunch, clean-cut, moral
college life, wiped out from those
post-finals parties. You return
home looking tired and worn out,
ready to go back to your old room
and faint.
As you walk in the door, your
mother pulls out an old copy of
the National Observer.
"See, AI," she says to your
father. "I was right."
Your father tucks in his undershirt and takes a deep breath.
"What's all this about?" you
ask weakly.
''Marvin, your eyes are bloodshot," your mother says.
'.'I haven't slept much--exams."
"And I detect a drastic change
in your personality."
"Mom---l'm exhausted."
"And you've lost weight," she
says, reading from the paper as
she nods and sighs. "And you're
wearing a long-sleeved shirt. 1knew-it."
"Mom, it's ten below out."
"I knew it. Al, I knew it. I
was right all along. The boy,"
she says, ignoring you, turning
to your father, "is On Drugs.
Any minute, the narcotics men
will be here to take you away,
to ruin all the pleasure of our
vacation with you ... "
Student protests really have
nothing to do with the college
campus. Student Protests are
what take place when college students come home for vacation.
Mothers and daughters often
have a hard time during that
f i rs t co 11 e g e vacation home.
Thanksgiving. With the mother
giving thanks that her daughter
isn't pregnant; the daughter giving thanks that she can go back
to school in two days.
But susp1c1ons arise. As the
daughter unpacks, her mother
Io o ks carefully over he r shoulder.
After a few hours home, the
mother beckons her daughter into
her bedroom, where she_is laid
out, suffering, on her carefullymade bed.
"Marjorie?"
''Yes, Mom?"
''I'd like to talk to you. I
think your father and I have been
very receptive to your desires.
We've given in to your whole
etymology schtick---"
''Ecology, Mom.'' ..

"Yes. Well, we've been _v ery
nice. We've stopped using colored
to i 1et paper while you've been
home---and, God Knows, it's
ruining my whole color scheme
in the bathroom. But that's oka.
If that's what makes you happy.
And Dad's been saving his shirt
cardboards and this morning I
used them to drain the bacon.
We don't usually eat bacon, but
you said it was for astrology-'' Yes. So we did it for you.
But there's something I want
to know, Marjorie. I saw a copy
of your campus newspaper in
your room, And I couldn't help
picking it up and reading it--God Knows you never tell us
what's going on at that school
we're paying a fortune to---"
'' Mom, I've told you not to
go through my room."
"Well, what I want to know is
this: who is this roughneck student boy president on the front
page shouting about tearing down
the walls and revolution? Tell me,
what kind of boy is this president
of your student body?"
"Beats me, Mom. I don't know
him."
''What? So why don't you know
the president of your own student body? It would hurt? How
do you expect to get anywhere?"
And a few hours later. . .
"Marjorie, I wish to talk with
you about the problems of preg••
nancy in today's collegiate society."
'' Oh, Mom."
"Listen, Marjorie. Your father and I have your best interests
at heart. You've been in college
exactly 68 days now and I just
want to warn you-to tell you-how
much it would disgrace your fa- .
ther and I if you were to become
pregnant out of wedlock. Now I
don't want you to feel bad, but it
would give him a heart attack."
"Oh, you don't have to worry,
,
Mom. I'm being careful."
"Careful!!! Marjorieyour father will have a heart at-,
tack when he hears this. How
could you disgrace us. . . ?"
But parents try. As Marvin is
about to leave his home and return to college, lugging his water pipe, wearing a sweatshirt
with a clenched first printed on
it, his mother is still wondering
about those long-sleeved shirts.
And, as Marvin walks out of
the house, his parents call after
him.
"Um, Right On, Marvin, and
we'll write back," his mother
cries.
''Get those grades Up Against
The Wall, Son."
"Have a Groovy semester,
Sweetie."
"Don't get, ah, Freaked In by
all the hard work."
"And, Marvin," bis mother
shrieks. Marvin stops in his
tracks.
"Marvin, don't forget. • ."
Marvin smiles, clutches his
u m bi Ii c a I cord, and mutters
something to himself about The
Cat's Meow. And then he goes
off to college.

TORCH, April 20

LCC parking fee discussed
Most people would admit that
parking has become a problem
at LCC. Several possible solutions have been suggested-among them the institution of a
parking fee.
The suggested fee, discussed
at a recent meeting of the College Cabinet, would be $7 .50 for
staff and administration and $5.00
for students.
1'.ny such fee would need approval of the Board of Education before being instituted.
The idea behind the proposed
fee is to encourage the sharing
of rides and also to get students
and staff to use the bus facilities
available. People outside the Eugene area would be exempt from
the proposal because transportation can be a problem for
country dwellers.

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Institutional Research at LCC,
estimates the proposed fees, if
adopted, would bring about
$25,000 per quarter from students alone. The revenue would
be put into the school's -general
fund, and part of it would be
used to improve bus service now
being used.
Morgan said summer sessions
might be exempt from the fees
since the parking problem is not
as bad during summer months as
during the school year.

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After much debate and deliberation with myself over the
article in the Torch last week
titled "The Minority student:
part IT," I feel that the time has
come to speak out as an individual. Let me make this very
clear from the beginning - I speak
only for myself.
From the very first line of Mr.
Barbarossa's article I began to
see red. As if Blacks haven't
been bagged enough by everyone
who has a hand-shaking acquaintance with a black person, to the
ever present spanish American
Authority, who has become an
expert on where black radicals
come from. No doubt if many
black radicals had had the opportunity or choice to have come
from a middle-class family, he
might not have become a black
radical.
The next paragraph states that
the demands for black Education
(whatever kind of education that
is) has been led by noncredential blacks. As a noncredentialed
black, I was under the impression
black students wanted a better
education, period - but also one
which took into consideration the
black population, thus the blaclc
point of view. And as far as having a black view point is concerned, I wonder if we aren't more
concerned about the white point
of view and perhaps now the point
of view of Mr. Barbarossa.
If the students or staff of the
black studies program have anything to say about the Black Studies program, I believe there are_
students and staff as well who
are capable of stating their views
- and to the proper authority.
If a minority fa°culty member
were guilty of co-opting as trying to follow the white faculty,
who would be in a better position
to determine this? The black student or Mr. Barbarossa?
I can't image any black student trying to give the MexicaAmerican point of view, which
leads me to wonder why Mr. Bar-

barossa woulaaffe-mpt sucn a
feat as trying to give the black
point of voice without the aid of
some Black person. Why not
write a column about minorities
under the byline of three minorities? At least then we know that
the opinions given were from persons with that particular kind
of minority experience. But I
resent Mr. Barbaross's trying to
speak for me when in most states
in the U.S. he has been legally
declared as belonging to the white
race. At least he has some optioR in a tight situation. But I
am labeled and · I have none.
People have studied or written
about black people for many reasons often for money or some
other gain. If Mr. Barbarossa
is trying to become an authority
on black people I would suggest some other field of endeavor. There is enough confusion
and misunderstanding about black
people now. One more uninformed
authority can only add to the confusion.
Jonathan West
Counselor
Vietnam panel
I would like to· send my thanks
for the information I received
from the panel of the Viet Nam
Information Committee.
The meeting was very enlightening and the panel was very
informative (when the time was
.allowed them).
I do believe this is a great
panel and that if you want information on Viet Nam, participate and direct your questions
to the panel. These men have been
there and they should know what
it is all about.
If you have gripes or other
views , please do not bring them
before this Viet Nam Information Panel.
Ron Davis
International Club
To the Editor
Interested students at Lane
Community College have organized an International Club,
and we would like to have you

KLCC to feature
series on drugs

A five-part symposium on the
local drug issue will be featured
by KLCC, Lane's FM radio station, during the week of April 26.
The symposium, presented in
cooperation with LCC, LCC-TV
News and the White Bird Clinic,
will be composed of five onehour radio and television programs. The programs will
feature a iour-man core panel,
and numerous guest panelists.
The first program will place
the local drug issue in perspective, defining people, places, and
things. The second program will
examine each d r u g s medical
ramifications. Program number
three will feature a discussion
with ex-drug dealers, and will
in c 1u d e an anonymous, taped
appearance of two quantity dealers who are presently in business in the Northwest.

a.m. and 7:00 p.m. each day
that week.
KLCC Program Director Tom
Lichty said copies of the audio
track will be available to local
broadcasters . after the first of
May. He has already received
requests from two local stations
for such copies. Arrangemen,t s
are still in progress for video
dubbings.
KLCC operates at 90.3 on the
FM dial.

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both American and International
students. We meet every Tuesday at 12:00 in the Center Building (Room 223). Dues are $1.00.
Some reasons for organizing
this club were: 1) To promote
international understanding, 2)
To increase opportunities for
education about this and other
countries, 3) To provide activities which will encourage social
interaction. We hope to fulfill
these goals and we need your
help to accomplish them. During
spring term we plan to sponsor
an International week, a trip
to the beach and other activities.
Each Thursday we will sponsor
an International Table in the cafeteria. Won't you join us and add
your comments?
The offices are Godwyn Smith,
President (Guyana); Kathy Wartmann, Vice-President (Switzerland); Sheryl Wade, SecretaryTreasurer (USA); Adviser, Mrs.
Parent.
Please help support this new
organization by attending the
meetings and helping with the
activities. It was organized to
help YOU~
Be seeing you,
Godwyn Smith
Kathy Wartmann
Sheryl Wade
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The fourth program in the
series will examine the legal
issues, while the final program
will focus on cadid impressions
from the studio audience.
The first three programs will
be taped today (Tuesday). Programs four and five will be
taped Wednesday, April 21. Taping will be done in the Forum
Building at LCC in the television studios on the first floor.

Flight Technology, Paradental/
Paramedical, Physical Education
and Intercollegiate Athletics."
The point that I would like to
emphasize is that all students
taking physical educationactivity
courses such as Golf, Folk Dance,
Archery, Badminton, etc. will
also have to have a physical on
file with the College Health Services before they will be allowed
to take part in those activities.
2 I think students should know
that· in order' to pick up their
Fall Term registration packet
. they will have to provide proof
of the TB test at that time.
Robert Marshall
Director of Admissions
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On Tuesday, April 13, I was
scheduled for trial concerning a
traffic ticket received last October while on the way to the hospital for treatment for an asthmatic attack.
I was denied an attorney to
be appointed by the court, then
lost my right to a jury trial
because I misunderstood the letter sent out by the court. It
made no difference whether I
understood or not - I received
it too late but didn't know procedure to rectify this. Further,
I did not wish to be tried by
the judge because he already knew
of the case and he also knew I
would appeal HIS decision.
This same day I went to see
my doctor and found I had bronchitus. My wife then called the
court and asked advice, then did
what they told her. The court's
advice turned out wrong; they
forfeited my bail and the court
specifically forbade me the right
to appeal.
This only proved to me my
suspicion that the judge was
biased, that the court only wanted my money - not justice, and
that an attorney is not provided
to people of small amounts of
bail to prevent them from obtaining justice, following court
procedure, or saving their money
on traffic records from loss
just because of an ignorance of
,what to do.

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The city can have an attorney
and I have to outsmart som~ who
has been educated to "know the
ropes."
I wonder how many people have
been railroaded into losing their
money because of ignorance or
not wanting to lose time off work
or school.
AU I want is justice.
A. M. Faulhaber
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Physical exam policy
To the editor:
.
In reference to your article
in the April 13 TO~CH_ regar~ing physical exammahon pollcies, I would like to stress a
couple of additional points that
I think might reduce some of the

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F·i nal theatre production
opens April 23 at LCC
by Jon Haterius

Dental clinic redecQrated
Figurines of animals parade
across the once sterile walls;
mosaic patterns have replaced
the drab bulletin boards i and the
X-ray machine has developed a
cross-eyed stare.
Children who panic at the
thought---or sight---of a dentist's
drill will have these pleasant
distractions at eye level in LCC's
newly redecorated Dent a 1 Hygiene Clinic.
Changes in decor in the X-ray
room and parts of the clinic were
the result of a project in sociology undertaken last term by
dental hygiene students Brenda
Smith, Molly McCauley and Debbie Dexter. The project was designed to test the effect of the
environment on children visiting
the c 1in i c. Redecoration was
completed after approval by Mrs.
Becky Armstrong, head of the
dental clinic, and Dr. John Dickson, head of the LCC Paradental
Department.
Patient response to a questionnaire designed by the students
indicate the kids like the new
environments and even the "big
people" who don't mind a trip ,
to the chair appreciate the new
decor.

'' The war has cost about
1,000,000 killed and wounde?·
During the war a U. S. President was assassinated!"
Vietnam?
No!
"John Brown's Body," LCC's
last theatre production of this
year, deals with the Civil War
rather than Vietnam. The Steven Vincent Benet play, which
opens April 23, features three
actors and a chorus of twenty
that tell by way of narrative and
song of the irony, cruelty, and
trauma of one of the world's
greatest struggles.
Ed Ragozzino 1 Priscilla Lauris, and Peter Simpson (who
plays Abraham Lincoln) serve as
commentators and witnesses as
they tell of the confrontation in
our nation's most costly war.
Historians have estimated the
Civil War cost more than 15
billion dollars.
This epic is di re c t e d by
George Lauris, who directed "We
Bombed in New Haven" Fall
Term. LCC's production of the

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As part of Earth Day activities Thursday, April 22, Lane's
c h apt e r of Z e r o Population
Growth (ZPG) will sponsor a
series of films, speakers, and
rap sessions on family planning.
Dis cu s s ions will focus on
topics such as contraceptives and
the need for family planning.
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Registered nurses who have
worked in the field of family
planning will be available to answere married or had a child wer questions.
before Dec. 24, 1970, and failThe group will meet from
ed to notify the VA, can be paid ll:00 a.m. to 12:00 noon, and from
only from that date.
1: 00 p.m. to 4: Ou p.m. in Business
Veterans who are eligible for 207.
increased payments are urged
The meetings are open to the
to contact their local VA of- public, which is invited to join
fice.
the discussion.

play, viewed in rehearsal earlier this week, is the most
MOVING theatre production
staged this year. Lauris has
used the three actors, lighting
and rustic board and plank backdrop set to advantage. The music, no small part of the production, provides background as
the central characters give running narrative in the present
tense of the war's unfolding and
climax.
The twenty-voice choir is excellent, and is a large asset to
this narrative "documentary."
For history buffs, or theatre
patrons, this final production is
a MUST. Do not expect a carnival or side-show, with exotic dancers. There are not really that
many laughs. War is never very
funny.
The show opens at 8:00 p.m.
April 23, and wUI play April
24, 28, 29, and 30, and May 1
in the Forum Theatre. All tickets are reserved.
Information and tickets maybe
obtained at the Information Desk
in the Administration Building,
or by phoning 747-4501, ext. 310.

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benefits increase
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with changes ii'! dependents
Veterans in training under the
G.I. Bill are entitled to more
money when they get married
or have children.
For example, a full-time student in school will have his $175
a month increased to $205 when
he gets married and to $230 if
he becomes a father.
Veterans taking cooperative,
apprenticeship, on-the-job
or farm cooperative training also have their Veterans Administration pay me n ts increased
when they get married and have
children. Apprenticeship and onthe- job trainees get additional
payments for only two dependents, while others get them for
all dependents.
Previously, veterans could be
paid the additional amounts only
from the date they notified the
VA of their new dependent. Under legislation effective Dec. 24,
1970, however, students have one
year from the event to present
the marriage license or birth
certificate to the VA.
S i n c e the new law is not
retroactive v tepl\~tu~eqts who

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Buy· Back is closed
until June 1
Our Spring Term book needs are now supplied and we
have no need of further purchases at this time.
The used-book dealers to whom we sell discontinued
titles are now revising their buying prices, making for an
unstable market during the next few weeks.
By June 1 we plan to have information on the books
needed for summer school and the 1971-72 school year.
We will then be in a position to offer a buying service again.

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Cherrie McMurray

To the Editor:
Ever since Lane Community
College was moved to this campus, there were serious financial
p rob I ems concerning student
money. In fact, during the school
year 1969-1970, this student body
has gone through four treasurers.
Last year, the 2nd Vice-President had to assume the duties
of the treasurer, as a result of
the elected treasurer resigning.
The reason Lane has had so
much problem keeping treasurers was that the previous
treasurers had not kept legible
books.
When Cherrie McMurray was
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appointed, she promised to execute the treasurers office to the
best of her ability. After she took
a good look at the previous years
books, she had second thoughts
about staying in office. But she
remembered her promise to the
students, and she sat down and
worked hours and hours on those
books. When she was done, those
books we re an accountants
dream. They still are. In fact,
Cherrie has made those books
available to anyone who cares to
take a look, and she challenges
anyone to find an error in her

Cherrie has done a fantastic Committee wishes to announce
job. She is now seeking re-elec- its support for the candidacy of
tion for treasurer of Lane Com- Suzanne McGill.
munity College. So when you go
We feel that the ideals exand vote Wednesday (tomorrow)
pressed by Miss McGill are in
put an "X" in the box next to
keeping with our ideals.
Cherrie McMurray. And when
you do, you'll be helping yourThis announcement is necesself more than Cherrie, because sitated by conflicting statements
whenever an outsider or a Lane and rumors regarding involves tu dent takes a look at the ment with, and support for, the
Senate Treasurer's books, they other candidates.
will be awfully proud of Lane for
Tony Rogers
electing such a competent and
VNIC
capable Treasurer.
The "political game"
Rick Krumdieck
work.
To the Editor:
Why is it, when this time of year
They say you should judge a Suzanne McGill
rolls around, the re are a few peoperson on past experience, Cher- To the Editor:
ple who feel it necessary to play
rie gets an "A" plus.
The LCC Vietnam Informati
"the political game." You know
the ones--''I promise this" or
"I promise that"? Did you ever
stop and think about how many of
the candidates, when asked something, answered: ''I can't do that"
or ''I don't know- that, but" and
then put you in touch with the person who can help you? There are
very few candidates like that.
'' The political game" is one of
the cruelest forces that our society is faced with today. Candidates talk of changing politics
to be more rPpresentative of the
people. To me, this is just another political play for the voters
that is an attempt to hoax them
into believing that the candidate
can change the po 1it i ca 1structure, and that they care aboutthe
voter. Bull!
The people that are truly concerned, are people who try before elections. To try, itfollows
that there will be mistakes and
failures. Beware of those people
who would lead you to believe
there are no mistakes or failures
in their past; they are either lying
or have never tried.

TITAN DENNIS HILLIARD BREAKS THE TAPE
breaking the previous record for the two-mile
relay. Hilliard was anchor man for the team of

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Hilliard, Pickett, Isley and Van Camp. Lane
placed fourth among eight teams competing in
the Mt. Hood Relays April 17. (See story, page 7)
(Photo by Bill Hirning\

SPORTS BRIEFS

Baseball

There were no baseball games
last week due to Oregon's famous
unpredictable weather.
The team should be well rested
for action this week when they
take on the Oregon College of
Education jvs on Thursday, April
22, in Monmouth at 3:00 p.m.,
and Linn-Benton Community College in a double-header at Hamlin
Field at 1:00 p.m. Saturday, April

24.

The five day forecast? Cloudy
with periods of rain.

ing softball should sign up in
the women's locker room or in
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Two more intramural
tourna- . the Intramural Office.
If there i s enough interest,
ments are getting underway next
week and meetings are scheduled teams will be formed and tournathis Thursday, April 22, for the ments played. lndivfduals and
participants. Both meetings will teams are welcome to particibe held in the conference room pate. Games will be played at
of the Health and Physical Edu- 4:00 p.m. weekly or at times
-~onvenient for the teams.
cation building.
At 1:00 p.m. there will be a
badminton meeting, followed at Tennis
1:30 by a volleyball meeting.
The meetings will cover times,
With the coming of good weaschedules, and rules for the two ther, it's time to
get rackets
events.
and head for the tennis courts.
lntramurals

The intramural office is organizing a tournament for women. Both singles and doubles
Soft Ball
play will be offerect.
Women's intramural softball
Sign up sheets are located in
begins soon. Any full or part- the women's locker room and the
time students interested in play- Intramural Office.

Women's intramurals
Women's tennis

The LCC women's tennis team
defeated the University of Oregon
j.v.'s 4-1 Monday, April 12.
Singles winners for Lane were:
Kathy Haines over Sylvia Sandoz 6-2, 6-1; Karen Barrong over
Lindalee Davis - 6-3, 6-2.
The only Lane loss was credited to Rosemary Taylor, who
was defeated by U of O players
Molly Madden - 9-7, 11-9.
In doubles, Jan Peterson ·and
Francie Behm (LCC) teamed up
to defeat Oregon's B. Crawford
and J. Bassett, 6-4, 6-4, and
Sera Deathrage and Janet Wooten (LCC) defeated C. Towne and
M. Hessel of the U of 0, 7-5,
9-7.
Bad weather caused other matches to be cancelled.
The LCC women are scheduled
to host a match with Clark College Tue&d.ay, April 20.

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Tod a y, unfortunately, some
people feel that in order to be
"successful politicians," it is
necessary to see how many people they can use with the least
amount of noise. I personally
find this distasteful.
The candidates that are running
for student body offices here at
Lane are supposedly well-qualified for their respective positions. Are they really? What
experience do they have? Have

they been connected with Student Senate before? Do they know
what is happening on campus?
Do they know enough parliamentary procedure to carry on meetings? When about 90% of its
members don't know these things,
or can't answer these things, you
and student government are in
trouble, because you are being
used as stepping stones.
This is your future--play with
it as you like.
Bill McMurray
A Student

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by Louise Stucky
The LCC Women's Track Team
emerged victorious in a close
contest held at Lane Tuesday,
April 13.

LCC won the meet with 42
points. The University of Oregon was a close second with 40
points, and Oregon State and
OCE tied for third place with

3 5 points each.
In addition to winning the meet,
several of the team members
broke LCC records set at the
first meet of the season. Out
of fourteen events, the Lane women set new records in nine
departments.
Karen Wicklund made new records by placing third in the
long jump with a jump of 15' 5",
and first in the high jump with
a leap of 4' 11".
Beth Smith set two new records also. She placed first in
the discuss with a toss of
137' 5.5" and second in the javelin by throwing the spear
128' 9".
Patty Howard placed third in

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Win
the 440 yd. run with a time of
1:14.4.
New records were also set
by the 440 and 880 medley relay teams which won third place
in both events. Members of the
4 4 0 relay t e a m a re Peggy
Bartholomew, Karen Wicklund,
Louise Stucky, and Marsha Rea;
their time was 54.4. The 880
medley team consists of Patty Howard, Louise Stucky, Beth
Smith, and Karen Wicklund, their
time was 2:08.I.
Setting a new record in the
200-meter hurdles was Peggy
Bartholomew, placing fourth with
a time of 33.8.
Marsha Rea finished fourth
in the high jump with a 4'8"

Lane shatters record
in two-mile relay

by J. Allgood

effort and second in the 100meter dash with a time of 12.l.
Beth Smith captured first place
in the shot put with a respectable
put of 41' 11.5". other efforts
in the shot put were by Lorraine
Hein, who was second (36' 2.5")
and K r is Havercroft, fourth
(29' 4").
Peggy Bartholomew finished
fourth in the 100-meter hurdles,
timed at 18.0.
Louise Stuckey took fourth in
the 880 with a time of 2:49.
Kris Havercroft was fourth in
the 440 with a time of 1:15.6.
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Dennis Hilliard shattered the athletes. The event was costly
two-mile relay meet record as as it killed any chances for LCC
LCC raced to a blazing 7:46.1 to defend the title won last year.
in the annual Mt. Hood Relays
The condition of the track was
Open 7 days a week
KAREN WlCKLIJND clears 4' 11" in th•~ high jump to talc~ first held April 17 at Portland.
good considering the meet was
place and break the LCC women's record. She was instrumental
The Oregon State JV team won held under partly sunny skies,
in Lane's close victory over the U of O and OCE April 13.
the nine-club trackfest by amas- and the times were generally fast.
(Photo by Bill Hirning) sing 101.5 points. Host Mt. Hood
Coach Al Tarpenning-'s track
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Sports Editor
l at ions and community "backnum's record in the Javelin by
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-4
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tossing
lash,." College sports.
A form of verbal combat exists
Van Arnum a former LCC athIt is hard for a man to bebetween the LCC Athletic De- come angry at his old school
lete, set his record of 197'-10"
partment and the LCC student when they are whipping their
last year.
government over money.
Rick Taylor of Mt. Hood set
cross-state rivals 25 to 6 in a
Since the athletic program de- Saturday televised football game.
a new mark in the pole vault
pends largely upon the generosity It is equally hard to align an
as he sailed over the bar at
Plus 10% off
ports
of the student government, it is athletic program politically.
15'0'', breaking Curt Nettle's efonly plausible that the student
There are students at Lane who
fort of 13'6 in 1969. Nettle is
government be the first attacked would stop all student financial
also from Mt. Hood. Blain Po- D
when the money seems to get support to the athletic program.
meroy of Mt, Hood and Ray Shoptoo tight, and the athletes be- Regretfully enough, some are in
taw of LCC also sailed over the
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Athletics provides more than money. These students would
14'6" and 14'0" respectifully. . 1f-!gJc;J
one function on any college cam- abort your athletic program.
Mt. Hood's 440-relay combinapus. It provides activities for
tion of Dick Krohn, Tom Golke,
Who is to blame for the fiparticipants, granted, but along nancial situation of athletics at
Robert Bates, and Bob Peterson
with the athletes, the school bene- LCC? I cannot in good conscience
blazed to a 42,4 clocking, folfits also. A well-rounded, good place all the blame on the Stulowed closely by LCC which ran
athletic program offers enter- dent Senate, although they are
the event in a swift 42.6, a new
tainment at a small cost (no largely at fault.
school record for the Titans.
cost at Lane) for the students.
The old record for LCC was 42.9,
Blame should be placed on
Many students go to a good bas- the students who are athletes and
set last year. Mt. Hood previously
ketball game, baseball game, ten- the students who feel nothing can
held the record earlier with a
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competition not for the '' o Id thing can be done.
Mt. Hood's Tom Golke had an
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fashioned" ''school spirit" clioutstanding leap of 22'5 1/2" in
At h 1et es and interested stuche, but for the sheer enjoyment dents, arise! Ascend upon the
the long jump as he won the
of the game.
event by a half inch over Dale
student government. Demand they
College athletics serve another support the athletic program!
Groshong, who represented the
function, that of public relations Demonstrate, petition, get supOSU JV's.
with the community. With the port from the student body or
Portland Track Club captured
trouble college campuses are o r g an i z e against t he student
the mile relay as they ran the
go·ing through politically, one government if necessary, but do
four-lap affair in 3:23.7, Lane
faction of college life is acting som,athing to let the "money
placed third with a time of 3:28.9
but in the process broke their
spenders'' know what you want
school record of 3:30.
done with "your" money.
Titan cagers
The athletic department is hanTim Bishop of LCC placed
second in the 120-yard high hurddicapped, because of the "credibest ,n nation
bility" gap that exists between les as the former Churchill high
most administrators and stu- ace skimmed over the barriers
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The Titan basketball t e am , dent governments, and cannot in ' 15:3, just one-tenth of a secoached by Irv Roth, had the top work alone with the Senate. If cond behind OSU's DougSynder's
field-goal percentage among the students of LCC want a good time of 15:2. Bishop also placed
teams in the National Junior athletic program they must work third in the triple jump with a
College Athletic Association, the for it and against some student combined leap of 42' -3".
Lynn Henkel of LCC placed
leaders if necessary. However
NHCAA announced last week.
The Titans made 865 of 1,543 if you want nothing but a second third in the high jump with a leap
of 5'10", and was the only other
shots for a shooting average of rate program, do nothing.
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TORCH! April 20

Student Senate Minutes - April
Bruce Nelson.

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-(E DITO R'S NOTE: These
minutes are unofficial until
adopted by the Student Senate
at its nP.xt regularly scheduled
ml?eting.)
The meeting was called to
order at 1:35 p.m. in the Board
Room by President Warren
Coverdell on April 15, 1971.
Senate Officers present: Warren Coverdell, Cherrie McMurray, Mark Parrish. Senators
present: Larry Hofmann, Bill
Nelson, Debbie Ulrich, John Douglass, James Henning, Dan Rosen, Pa u 1 Christensen, 0 m a r
Barbarossa, Mel Wood, Roberto
Loredo, John Purkey. Club Representatives p resent: Cheryl
Burgess Doug Strong, John Mills,
Joe Armas, Loren Rictor. Advisors present: Mrs. Betty Ekst ram. Excused Members:

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Graduation Committee

Mr. Ron Davis, Committee
Chairman, requested that Senators James Smith and Omar Barbarossa be removed fro m the
committee. Because of other priorities the Senators have not been
ab I e to attend commit t e meetings.
Senators Smith and Barbarossa
were removed from the committee and their positions were
filled by Senators Hofmann and
Wood.
Mr. Davis reported that the
committee was progressing very
well and that another report would
be submitted to the Senate at
the next meeting,
Mrs. Betty Ekstrom, Student
Activities Director, commended
the committee for the effort and
work they have put forth.
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will not be used for the Student
Body elections. Because of the
cost of computer time ($200-300),
the Board of Tellers decided
against using the county's machines.
Chicano Student Union

Senator Robert Loredo presented the constitution of the
Chicano Student Union for charter. Treasurer Cherrie McMurray moved to adopt the constitution and charter the C.S. U. The
motion was seconded.
Publicity Director Mark Parrish called for the question on
all pending matters. The motion
was seconded and carried by a
voice vote.
The main motion was carried
unanimously by a voice vote.
Iron Butterfly Concert
The Iron Butterfly concert has
been confirmed but not contracted.
Because the tuition increase
will cause some students great
difficulty in continuing their education. the Senate has set a goal
for $5000 in addition2.l revenue
(to be acquired through the sponsorship of concerts) to be put
into a Senate scholarship fund
for needy students .
School Aide Program
Senator Bill Nelson moved to
adopt the constitution of the
School Aide Program and grant
them a Lane Community College
ch art e r. The motion was seconded and unanimously passed
by a voice vote.
Committee for Mention

The Committee to Support Bob
Mention for re-election to the
Board of Education of Lane Community College requested that
$500 be allotted to Mr. Mention's
political campaign. Mr. Mention
is a student-orient~d me~ber of
the Board and he 1s runnmg for
re-election to the Senator-atLarge position.
It was the consensus of the
Senate that student body funds
should not be used to support
a polical campaign; however, the
students could express their concern and support through individual contributions and campaign
help,
Senator Mel Wood moved to
form a committee to support
Mention and solicit funds to help
him retain his Board of Education position. The motion was
seconded and carried by a voice

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Mrs. Ekstrom reported that:
I. club charters should be reviewed and the inactive charters
pulled;
2. trip reports for those driving to Bend should be submitted
to the Student Activities Office;
and
3. the Chess Club of LCC has
been billed $32.90 for damages
occured during the ACUI Chess
Tournament held at the University of Idaho, Mosow, Idaho. The
Chess Club denies any responsibility for damages and they
have, along with Student Activities Director Betty Ekstrom, sent
a letter stating that fact and that
they will not accept the responsibility of payment for said damages.
Publicity Director Parrish
moved to supp o rt the Chess
Club's statement and send a cover

letter to that effect, along with
the other replies. The motion
was seconded and unanimously
carried by a voice vote.
The Senate financial policy will
be presented at the next Senate
meeting .

Closed session
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2: 58 to allow the Senate to go
into closed session.

The meeting was adjourned
at 4:00 p.m.

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Lane Community College TORCH

Section B

TORCH recommends Coverdell
Selection of effective student officers is a process
requiring lengthy deliberation.
After conducting extensive interviews (reprinted in
this section) with the three presidential candidatesWarren Coverdell, Omar Barbarossa and Suzanne
McGill (write-in candidate)--and after considerable
evaluation of those interviews and the candidates'
past performance, the TORCH recommends the reelection of Warren Coverdell as ASLCC President.
This recommendation .is based primarily on two
major factors: 1) experience, and 2) more important,
each candidate's attitude and approach to. the office
of the presidency.
The most realistic choice lies between Coverdell
and Barbarossa. The TORCH would not recommend
Miss McGill. She has very little experience in positions of leadership, which in itself might be no handicap were her program better developed. She has no
organized proposals to suggest, and many of _those
she advances are recent thoughts still in the stage of
"being discussed."
Miss McGill's primary qualification, she notes, is
concern. However, concern characterizes all three
candidates, and concern in itself does not guarantee
effectiveness. Her concern is primarily directed
toward improving communication with the Board and
with the public. Yet even in this area, she offers only
an undiscloseable method, apparently available only
to her. True improvement in communication, if it
is to benefit the school and the students, must be
open and available to all rather than based on private
arrangement,
Perhaps Miss McGill's primary handicap is that
she lacks the necessary air of authority the position
of ASLCC President demands. She seems reticent and
withdrawn. She is reluctant to take a definite stand
on a controversial issue, and is evasive or uncertain
in many areas. She expresses unwillingness to criticize publicly in any way actions of the Board or administration, even should she disagree with them. It is
doubtful that Miss McGill could effectively deal with
problems arising in the Student Senate, during Board
deliberations, or in dealings with other segments of
the college community. It would appear that in any
situation in which there was conflict, students' interests would not be well represented.
In recommending Coverdell over Barbarossa, the
TORCH considers the following:
Any new officer must of necessity undergo a period
of orientation to that particular office. That orientation period could conceiveably require as much as
half the academic year-valuable time that could be
devoted to important student issues. Though Barbarossa has worked extensively in various organizations
both on and off campus, he would still have to adjust·
to the specific responsibilities of the ASLCC President. Coverdell, on the other hand, completed this
process last year and would be able to begin effective work almost immediately.
Simply having occupied the office of President is
not Coverdell's primary qualification, however. That
occupancy has been productive. During his tenure
student government has for the first time become an
active force on campus, and student views are now
given consideration. A prime example of the improved
position of student government is the Board of Education's invitation to Coverdell to participate in Board
deli be rations. other accomplishments include
approval of student housing after three years of planning. A Student Bill of Rights was constructed. A new
constitution and by-laws are nearing completion. And,
through Coverdell's continual personal efforts, one of
the primary problems of student government---communication with the student body-has been attacked by
assuring that Senate minutes are regularly made
available in time for publication in the TORCH. Whenever an agenda can be developed s u ff i c i en t 1y in
advance, it also is made available for publication
prior to Senate meetings. That did not occur under
his predecessors.

This is not to say that Coverdell has totally solved
all problems presented by the office, or that he has not
made errors. One serious error was the public threat
of a student strike in reaction to the tuition increase
before exploring available alternatives--an action the
TORCH editorially opposed. Yet he was flexible enough
to reconsider, and alternatives were developed after
realizing the disadvantages of such a strike. Since
that incident, Coverdell has openly admitted his threat
was a "gut-reaction" response, which he regrets. His
subsequent performance in two situations similar to
that which produced the strike threat indicates that
he learned from the experience, and that such behavior would not likely occur again. His response to a
recent personal attack by one of the Board members
during a public meeting was controlled and reasonable.
When the Student Bill of Rights was rejected in favor of

Comment by

TORCH Editorial Soard
developing an institutional document, Coverdell reacted in a mature, rational manner. His performance
should be judged as a whole rather than on the single
issue of the strike.
In selecting a presidential candidate, one must
consider more than experierice and pastperformance.
As desirable, hypothetically, as it may be to avoid
any consideration of personality, it is in aspects of
personality, attitude, and approach to the office of
the presidency that the two candidates differ subAnd those attributes will, to a great
stantially.
extent, determine effectiveness while in office. To
avoid consideration of them is unrealistic.
The scope of Coverdell's approach to the office
is more comprehensive than Barbarossa's. Barbarossa's past activities have been primarily directed
toward--and he is extremely interested in--community action programs and programs for minority
The TORCH feels it would be extremely
groups.
difficult for him to broaden that focus sufficiently.
Coverdell's focus is not limited to any one area of
student need. Rather, he envisions an overall pro. gram involving both campus-related and community
projects, with attention to the needs of sub-groups '
within each.
Though the scope of Coverdell's interests is wide,
he has displayed the necessary persistence in following
through with those projects he has initiated. Items
such as student housing and the Student Bill of Rights are not projects which can be started, organized,
and then abandoned by the president. They require
patience and continual supervision. Barbarossa seems
to lack this patience in carrying through with the
tedious details of completing a project. He is an
effective "idea man," in that he is continually developing new proposals and projects, but the idea
itself is only the beginning. Barbarossa contends
that a president can only be effective if he knows
the proper time to relinquish further development to
others, and to a certain extent he is correct. Premature withdrawal, however, and failure thereafter to
mainfain close contact with those other people, makes
the project of little value. An example of such premature withdrawal by Barbarossa is his establishment
last summer of the Student Awareness Center, and
his quick disassociation from it. The Center is just
now recovering part of the effectiveness it lost by
that move.
In developing and carrying out his programs,
Coverdell seems more flexible and open to the
Barbarossa admits it is very
views of others.

difficult to sway him from his philosophy and goals,
and suggests the president should surround himself
with those who think like him. His approach to ·
issues takes the form of insistence, as exemplified
in his positive declaration that the committee developing an institutional bill of rights WILL have equal
representation. Barbarossa seems to regard the
relationship between student government and other
segments of the college community as that of adversaries, in which it is necessary to "deal" or
"bargain" from a "position of strength." This
approach results in an impression of being overbearing, which produces defensiveness and uncooperativeness in the listener. Coverdell, on the
other hand, expresses a desire to arrive at solutions cooperatively, as is evident in his discussion
of developing communication with the administration.
A cooperative approach is also present in Coverdell's attitude toward others involved in student
government. Throughout his discussion of Senate
activities, successes are viewed in terms of what
"we," rather than "I," have accomplished. He
also assigns himself a share of the responsibility-if not most of it-for failures. In contrast, Barbarossa, when discussing the Senate's failures, does
so in terms of "they," even though he is himself a
part of the current Senate. When talking of successes,
however, he does so primarily in terms of "I.'' An
inability to share both credit and blame can produce
frustration and lack of cooperation from those with
whom the president must work. At times, it can also
be misleading. For example, Barbarossa comments
he was "probably the first senator who stood up and
spoke a~ainst the strike," yet Senate records show
that he ultimately voted in favor of the student strike-even though it was with qualifications. He also
comments that he "set up" the off-campus workstudy program. However, discussions about implementing off-campus work-study began as early as
December of 1969 or January of 1970, when a letter
from Washington, D. C., stated that schools which
developed extensive off-campus programs would get
larger shares of federal monies in the 1971-72 school
year. At that time plans were made to hire a fulltime staff member to direct off-campus work-study.
Due to the budget defeats, however, the full-time
-position did not materialize. Barbarossa was hired
to implement the program which had already been
designed.
In an overall view, Coverdell seems to have a
more realistic view of the possibilities of student
government. He realizes that there are no simple
answers, and that things cannot always be done his
way. Considering his experience, accomplishments,
approach, and attitude; considering the maturity he
has gained while in office--the TORCH feels the
ed by
interests of LCC students would best be serv_
his re-election.
The prospect of re-electing a current officer has
raised the question of developing a ''professional"
student government, in which students neglect educational ·achievement to focus on official duties.
A second term in office hardly qualifies as ''professional" student government. In addition, the decision to temporarily delay portions of one's education is a personal matter which is based on individual priorities. As long as the president maintains sufficient hours to qualify as a full-time student,
his progression through the academic curriculum is
a private matter.
Although the TORCH recommends Coverdell for
the position of ASLCC President, the TORCH also
strongly urges that Barbarossa be included in the
power structure of the next administration so that
he can continue to serve in an official capacity as
a representative of LCC's student government. His
abilities as an initiator of ideas, and his interest and
talent in community action and minority programs,
are valuable assets to LCC. But those talents can
function best in a position outside the presidency.

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CANDIDATES"

RONALD DAVIS
Second Vice President

WES KIGHT
First Vice President

First Vice-President
Wesley Kight

I am running on a write-in
campaign for First Vice President. I have been a member of
the S t u de n t Senate about two
school years. With my experience
in the Senate, I have obtained a
working knowledge in student
government and how it performs.
The duties of First Vice Presid~nt are: a) assume the duties
of the President in his absence,
b) be in charge of all elections,
c) appoint and serve as chairman of the Board of Tellers,
d) carry out all duties assigned
by the President, e) at all times
uphold the consitution of the student body. As First Vice President, I would be a member· of
the Executive Cabinet.
I would try to help the students of LCC to obtain the type
of student government they want.
• I would try to answer all questions about student government

Since I seem to be the only
candidate running unopposed for
a positon with the Executive Cabinet, I find myself reluctant to
engage in any lengthy dialogue
extolling the relative virtues of
myself.
I feel that it is relevant to
point out that I will continue to
fulfill, to the best of my ability,
the responsibilities of Director

BAllOT
PRESIDENT:
*Warren Coverdell
Omar Barbarossa
Suzanne McGill (write-in)
1st VICE PRESIDENT:
Bob Gilbreath
Wes Kight (write-in)
2nd VICE PRESIDENT:
Ron Davis
Mel Wood
TREASURER:
*Cherrie McMurray
David Red Fox
PUBLICITY DIRECTOR:
*Mark Parrish
Sharon Kephart (write-in)
SENA. TOR-AT-LARGE:
*Mike Woodring Merlin Finn
Sharon Danford John Mermis
Paul Christensen
Steve Leppanen
SENATOR: Language Arts
Greg Browning
SENA TOR: Mechanics
Jerry Hamaker
Gary Hercher
SENA TOR: Art & Applied Design
Barry Flynn
SENA TOR: Social Science
Katy Eymann Patricia RPid
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that are asked of me.
Being a member of the Board
of Tellers, the duties would be:
"a) be chaired by the First Vice
Preside:nt with at least three
other members, b) declare the
eligibility of each candidate prior
to nominations, c) certify all
election results, e) immediately
after tabulating election results
(1) announce winning candidates,
(2) compile records of all candidates, and votes cast for each,
and retain them for no less than
one term, then open them to inspection by any student body
member, f) post election results
in at least three locations, one
of which being the Student Center."
I believe that the job of First
Vice President is a position of
responsibility. I think that I am
the man to carry this responsibility. Please write-in my name,
Wes Kight, for First Vice President.

Publicity Director
Mark Parrish

CHERRIE McMURRA Y
Treasurer

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of Publicity, assure freedom of
expression, and explore all possible avenues directed towards
increasing student and community awareness of the many activities and accomplishments of
the student government of Lane
Community College.
I wish to further state at this
time that I fully support Warren
Coverdell in his effort toward
re-election at Student President.
Having worked closely with
Warren over the past several
months, I know him to b_e.BJJ individual of great ability, with deep
concern for all Lane students,
and with heavy commitments toward their collective betterment.
He is the best man for the student government, for the college
and for you.
I urge all of you who would vote
for me, and you who would not,
to support and vote for Warren
Coverdell, Student Body President.

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Treasurer

Cherrie McMurray

I am Cherrie McMurray, candidate for A.S.B. Treasurer.
I have attended Lane for two
years and will require one more
year, then three years at the
U of O.
I am majoring in Home Economics and Soc i o 1o g y. After
spending a war strai~~hteniJ1g out
the books, I would like to spend a
year working with orderly books.
If re-elected I will do the job
to the best of my ability, as in
the past year, and will uphold
the constitution of Lane Community CollegE'.

JERRY HAMAKER
Mechanics Senator

GARY HERCHER
Mechanics Senator

Second Vice-President

Mel Wood

As a member of this year's
Student Senate, I have had the
opportunity to become familiar
with the workings of the Associated Students of Lane Community College. I feel that this
knowledge and experience will be
beneficial to the office of Second
Vice President of the student government. As a member of the
Executive Cabinet of thP Senate.
I could provide someofthecontinuity of Senate programs and
policies necessary to effective
representation of students on this
campus.
My campaign is based on my
record this year as a Senator and
on my pledge to continue to work
for the students at Lane: to
serve to the best of my proven
abilities. I'm willing to listen to
the voices of students objectively
and to represent YOU, not my
own personal interests.
In fulfilling the obligations of
the office of Second Vice President, coordinating student activities and publishing a student
handbook, my ideas coupled with
your ideas will generate a diverse
and interesting activity schedule
for next year. My knowledge of
the school and the community, as
well as previous business experience, will be helpful in implementing a strong activities
program.
In addition, I would encourage
increased communication among
students not only at Lane, but
among students of all community
colleges in Oregon. As a mPmber
of the LCC delegation to the recent OCCSA convention in Bend,
Oregon, I was impressed with
what the students at Lane are
doing, but convinced that we need
to have more personal contact
with the student leaders of all of
the community colleges.

Ron Davis
If elected, I intend to better
the communication channels between the student and Student
Senate, and, as your student representative, I will carry out
the duties of the Second Vice
Presidency which are as follows:
I) Uphold ·the constitution of the
student 1 body at all times, 2) Activities Committe Chairman, the
functions of which are to a) review proposed campus club constitutions, b) review and reccommendation on student activities budget requests, c) written
evaluations of associated student
body sponsored activities to the
Senate; 3) Director of Student
Activities, 4) assume duties of
First Vice President in his absence, 5) preparation of student
activities calendar for the hand
book.
As your student representative, · I will 1 :pe-rfotm the above ·

duties to the best of my abilities,
and see that your constitutional
rights are protected. I further
intend to see that no ''communication gap" exists between the
students and the Student Senate,
Administration or Faculty.

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"Taxation without representation" is not any different than
student body fee without representation. So, on election day, I
will be grateful for an opportunity to represent each and every
one of you.

Senator: Mechanics

Gary Hercher

I, Gary Hercher, am a candidate for the position of sophomore senator from the mechanics
department. My major is Airframe & Powerplant Maintenance
Technology, and am enrolled presently in the third term of the
two-year program. I am seeking
the Senate seat because I fee1
that there is a requirement for
more direct representation by
those involved. I also feel that
the students in the various departments are not receiving the
word of happenings in the Senate
that they should be receiving. I
stand for the betterment of the
condiditions and programs for the
students at LCC and that they
should come before all others.
If elected, I promise to do my
best to serve with honesty and
integrity and to attain the goals

which I have just stated. I feel
that is the most anybody can do.

Senator:
Air Tech

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Jerry Haymaker

As a senator from Air Tech,
I would like to voice the options
of the students for which I represent. I would like to see ASB
funds used for the students on
the LCC campus. This means
rdorms. I would like to see reforms made in the ASB Constitution.
I have been a full-time studt•nt at LCC for over a year
and maintained a high grade point.
If you are for honest government for the students and by
the students along with hard work,
vote JERRY HAMAKER, senator.

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Senator-at-Large

PAUL CHRISTENSEN
Senator-at-Large

STEVEN LEPPANEN
Senator-at-Large

KATY EYMANN
Social Science Senator

Senator-at-Large
Merlin Finn
I'm Merlin Finn, seeking an
ASL CC office position of Senatorat-Large. I am presently in the
third term of a two year Associate Degree program in Airframe.

Prior to enrollment at 1-, ·:c,
I was employed by the U.S. Air
Force as an electronic maintenance supervisor. I have had
ex11erience serving on various
governing boards and advisory
councils, in the position of a
member and a chairman.
My primary purpose in running for the position of Senator,
is to improve student governmf'nt. I strongly feel that more

Senator:
Patricia Reid

effort should be directed toward
the betterment of Lane Community College and more compliance to the wish e s of the
majority of the student body. I
believe that better communications should be established with
the student body and the LCC
staff. This would revent further
irrational decisions by the Student Senate and needless waste
of student funds on questionable
charitable activities.
Lane Community College offers tremendous opportunities
for students striving to achieve
a desired goal in any of the vocational or academic programs.
A strong objective Senate would
benefit all students.

Social Science

Despite the major personal
problems going on in the Senate
right now, I know that better
things can and will happen. .
As soon as the officers realize
that this is not a high school and
that we are supposedly mature
adults; Lane Community College
will be a school taxpayers won't
mind supporting.
Since most of the students here
are not interested in the way the
school is run, there is not really
a lot I can say that will get you
to vote at all. So it is going to
be even harder to convince you
to vote for me.
I could make a lot of vague
promises, but we all know that
most ca mp a i g n promises are
never kept. So why waste time
fooling ourselves?
I do not know exactly what I
hope to accomplish through this
election, but I do know that I am
willing to listen to others, especially the senators.
The students at LCC deserve
better representation than they
are getting now.
I would like to see more attention given to the problems of the
"minority" students here. An
example of this would be to dedicate ourselves to programs such
as the low-cost housing development worked on by Presidential
nominee Omar Barbarossa~ It
would be wise to start and follow
through with solutions for the
other related problems.
The best way to obtain funds
for these programs would be to
disband the annual Senate conferences at the beach. This is an
extreme waste of much-needed
student body funds. If the officers
really want to iron out their
differences, they could do so
easier and cheaper right here in
town.
So far I have not said anything

to make the "average" student
want to run out and vote for meo
But I am not running for this
office on my name. Rather, I
am hoping the student voters will
realize that having sincerity is
much more important than having
a big name.
I am not going to beg you to
vote for me, but I am going to
ask for one thing. Please' vote
in the school elections on April
21. Show that you care.
Then, if you think that this
school deserves a chance, vote
for me. I will not guarantee anything, but I will try hard.

Katy Eymann
Any statement of political beliefs usually comes across as a
lot of empty, cliche-ridden promises about good intentions, or as
a strict, unrealistic statement
on each of the issues. I won't
do either. I will simply tell you
where I am at.
As a student, I share the sense
of apathy that politics provoke
he re at Lane. Oftentimes the
"student leaders" appear so distant and alienated from the actual student body. They have an
attitude of urgency that many or
most students do not share. I
feel in a balance between these
two groups-"leaders" and students. I feel some things are important and need attention; but
one needs to be realistic about
one's attention to all facets of
life, not just politics.
I can only say I am a college
transfer student majoring in philosophy; I am growing a far-out
garden; I grew up on a farm;
I'm considered a little left of
liberal, but I feel labels fail to
express how I want to approach
pol i-t i cs. And that's from a
HUMAN point of view ... for, in
the last analysis, that's all I
really am.

Pau I Christensen
I, Paul Christensen, am seeking your vote for Senator-atLarge. I am presently enrolled
in third term of Aircraft maintenance and sixth term of Electronic Engineering Technology.
This last year I had the privilege and responsibility of serving the Electronics Dept. as their
sophomore senator. I have
strived to keep them informed
of the events and to make their
opinions heard in the Senate.
Only by better communication
of student needs, and respon sible spending of Senate funds
can the Student Senate become an
asset to you.
I, Paul Christensen, ask for
your support in making good student government a reality.

Steve Leppanen
I'm not interested in cute cartoons, catchy captions, or vague
generalities made in the form of
campaign promises. You'll probably get enough of that kind of
bull from other people running
for office. I'm interested in
action. I'm interested in ideas.
I'm interested in issues.
The issues that vitally concern me, the actions I propose
to take on them, are an extension of where my head has been
at for the past several years.
For some time I've been opposed
to the war in Vietnam. I think
this is a very pressing issue.
You might say, "That's all very
well and fine, but what does that
have to do with LCC politics?"
You and I and LCC are all a
part of the system that is responsible for the fiasco inSoutheast Asia. I believe that, as a
student senator, there are some
things that I could do to further extend this opposition. The
main action I'd like to see effected
is the banning of Armed Services
Recruitment from this campus.
I would propose a resolution
passed by the Senate condemning
the war and the ~naction of this
government in ending it.
Ecology is a big issue. Everybody is talking, but damn little
is actually beipg done. I have a
couple thoughts on ecological action that might be applicable to
LCC. Why does the cafeteria
use so many disposable cups?
What kind of pressure could be
brought to bear to stop this
practice? Could more land around
LCC be used for an organic
garden, perhaps in conjunction
with a ·class through either LCC
or the Lane County Free School?
Why aren>t there any collection
boxes on this campus for the
recycling of newspapers? These
are all pretty small and limited
compared to the scope of the

problems we are currently facing
in ecology, but damn it, you have
to start SOMEWHERE l
If elected, I'm going to press
really hard for a program of
student-initiated courses. I believe that it's really necessary
for a student to have a voice
in the type of an education that
he or she is getting. This school
should not be limited to a preordained curriculum that was
perhaps thought out 30-40-50
years ago. The school should be
fluid enough to really meet the
needs of the students, AS THOSE
STUDENTS SEE THEM.
Something, of course, has to
be done about the Board that has
just so imperiously hiked the
tuition at this school, but I don't
know what, so I'll let that pass
for the time being.
This is pretty much where my
head's at, in relation to running
for the office of Senator-atLarge. I'd like to know where
your head is at, too. There's
a picture of me somewhere
around this statement. If you see
me wandering around campus
and you want to rap about anything I've said here, pull me
aside and we'll rap. It doesn't
matter if you agree with me or .
not. What does matter is that
maybe we'll get some ideas flowing back and forth, some new
things happening inside our
skulls. I'd like to communicate
with you, and to me, that's what
communication is all about.

Sharon Danford
All of us are a part of this
school and, therefore, are automatically involved in whatever
happens.
I like to have a voice in things
that involve me. I would also like
to serve as your voice.
I chose the position ofSenatorat-Large because, if I am elected,
I will not be tied down or dictated to by any department and
will be free to do what I feel
would benefit the majority of the
students, not just a few in one
department.
Vote for me as your representative to your Student Senate.

Notice
Wednesday, April 21, is election day for student body offices.
Polls will be open in the cafeteria from 8:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m.
Additional polls will be open from
10:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. by the
reflecting pond in front of the Administration Building and on the
East side of the Forum Building.
If it rains, the voting booth
by the reflecting pond will be
moved to the Gym Foyer across
from the Administration Building, and the booth on the East
side of the Forum Building will
be placed on the walk-way under
the Forum Building eaves.
To vote, a student must have .
in his possession a current LCC
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TORCH: Why are you running
for re-election?
COVERDELL:
That's funny.
Lloyd Paseman (a EUGENE REGISTER-GUARD reporter) asked
me that yesterday.
TORCH: Then you should have
a good answer.
No, I didn't
COVERDELL:
have a good ans we r for him
either. I suppose that the only
real answer is a particularly selfish one. There are many projects which we have started this
year, and others we had planned,
that as a result of other major
issues taking up more time than
we had expected, we're not going
to have time to complete this
year. Since it is necessary for
me to return next year to finish
my education anyway, and since I
have intiated these projects and
I'm deeply involved with them, I
hope to have the chance to see
them successfully completed.
TORCH: Would you comment
generally on the desireability of
student leaders serving in the
same capacity for more than one
year?
COVERDELL: Definitely. State
and national organizations beat
it into my head every day. The
aspect of continuity is the main
one, and it's particularly true on
a community college campus. It
takes approximately three to five
months for a new officer, particularly a president, to break
into office and find out every
aspect of that office and the ramifications of his different obligations and responsibilities. With
that in mind, there's another four
months left for him to really do
the work. This doesn't allow
enough time, as I stated earlier,
to get everything done he hopes
to do. New things come up every
day from the students on the campus. I think by re-electing an
officer who has been in previously, you naturally get rid of
that lack of real work time that
a new officer would be orienting
himself to the organization and
the system. And I will be able
to continue in a rather smooth
organization which we lfa ve spent
most of this year trying to set
up in an efficient, effective manner of getting things done for
the students and for the organization itself-student government.
TORCH: Did you have any past
experience and knowledge of parliamentary procedure before you
became involved with the Student
Senate?
COVERDELL: Next to none,
really. No. The first really thorough use of parliamentary procedure was when I joined the
Senate last year as a Senator.
Before that, of course, I had
belonged to certain clubs and organizations that had meetings and
operated in a loose form with
parliamentary p r o c e ct u re, but
nothing real strict or formal.
TORCH: What are the primary
qualifications you feel you have
for the job of ASLCC President?
COVERDELL: One of the major
ones has been stated earlier, experience in the office. I think
another major one is objectivity.
I can't speak too awfully much for
the other candidates, especially
for one. However, I feel that objectivity again is something that
comes with the job. It's been
commented to me by my own senators that it wasn't until about
three months ago they felt I was
becoming completely objective in
the job, during Senate meetings
in particular, circulating around
the proper hands. Apparently,
while I thought I was being objective, I wasn't really successful
at it. That's an important aspect.
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blueprints for many projects for
students to start now, and I think ·
the completion of these projects
would be important and valid for
the students. I think it's another
point, or advantage, that should
be considered.

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office you don't have enough time
to fulfill 12 hours in TV broadcasting or something of this sort.

TORCH: Do you feel a student
can fulfill both responsibilities
of classwork and student body
president while carrying a full
load of classes?
COVERDELL: Not at this point
TORCH: You mention objec- in time, no. Perhaps some time
tivity. Could you explain? Ob- in the future student government
jectivity toward what?
will be organized to the point
COVERDELL: Objectivity where one can carry 17 or 20
while making my de c is ions, credits per term and still have
starting on what I suppose could time to do his job quite effecbe considered the lowest level- tively, but at this time student
in the Senate meetings them- government itself still needed
selves, picking people to speak. complete organization. It was
For anybody to make a rational still-what would you call it?
decision on a subject, especially Most people think it's just a sandsuch important ones as Kent box affair anyway, and at that time
State, ROTC, Bill of Rights, or that's what it was. We were still
• anything of this nature, all viewpoints should be heard, and must
be heard. Those who are neither
liberal or conservative-whatever you want to use-thev especiaily need both sides, and take
from the middle. If the chairman,
which at this time is the student
body president, is not objective
during the meeting, he either purposefully or unknowingly picks
out people whom he knows, and
he knows more or less what
they're going to say. And many
times, subconsciously it happens
I suppose, they will back up how
he feels on a particular subject.
It takes a while for those who
think they are objective in the
first place to really become objective and give everybody, even
his opponents on a particular topic, a chance to speak and make
known their opinions, or the
opinions of the students they are
representing on a particular subject.
This is one very important subject. There many others-jobs
of the student body president that
are done just by himself alone,
or by him and his executive cabinet on a day-to-day basis between
the Senate meetings-<lecisions
that are made that reflect upon
the students. And he must learn
to take into accord those student
views that he is able to find out
and hear, and what he thinks the in the growing stages. We've only
mood of the students on this cam- been around for about four years,
pus is at the time, instead of re- and organization hadn't really
acting completely on his own taken place. It was a loose affair,
judgment and his own biases. and with this, on top of the other
duties of attending all the meetTORCH: Was your position ings necessary, doing the reas student body president res- search for the projects that we've
ponsible for your decision to initiated this year and carried
remain at LCC another year? over from past years---4n order to
Yes. I don't get them passed to the level of the
COVERDELL:
know if it was fortunate or un- Board, it did not leave enough
fortunate. Once I took the office time to carry a maximum load of
and found out exactly what it would credit hours to graduate this
take to fulfill the responsibilities year.
of the office completely, it soon
TORCH: Is that being reflected
became evident that I wasn't going
to be successful to the fullest in the new by-laws being drawn up
extent in both at the same time, for the proposed constitution?
COVERDELL: In the minds of
in my educational career and in
my job as student body president. most of the committee members,
At that time, I think the person yes. We hope to put in the by-laws
has to make a decision--in this less strict restrictions on execucase, me for this year--whether tive cabinet officers by adopting,
to do everything he could to do or hoping to have adopted anyway,
his job as student body president rather than the 10 credit hours of
effectively and slack off on his work necessary to be an officer,
education, or put his education as 9 class hours instead, which is
the primary point and not do his in effect at many colleges and
job as student body president as universities across the U. S.
effectively as could be done. at this time.
This puts an extra responsiWith this decision to make, I
guess it's my own ethics-I was bility and worry on those who
elected to that position, even if want to become involved in stuit was by such a small number, dent government. They'll have to
and these people expected me to make the decision ahead of time.
do the job they had elected me They'll know ahead of time what
.for. And at my particular age, they' re getting into and they'll
it doesn't matter that much. I have to make the decision whether
decided to postpone my education, graduating on time is of primary
or parts of it, for another year importance to them or whether it
in order to fulfill the responsi- is doing some work at the campus
bilities of student body president they can leave behind that would
as best I was able. This ne- help the students in the future.
cessitated an average of twelve,
TORCH: What do you feel has
sometimes an extreme of 18 hours
a day, working on student govern- been your major accomplishment
ment-related sMbjeers·am:ltepics, this year as president?
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question. There are two or three
things I tend to say are more
major in my mind, and all fairly
equal.
After three years of
hassle, I suppose our top priority
as we went into office this year
was student housing. • It's taken
three years to get passed, and
we've finally accomplished it this
year. That naturally would be one
of the major accomplishments
we've been able to get approved
this year.
other major accomplishments
are not yet completed, the ones
I think would be of major importance, such as the Student Bill
of Rights. It received another
postponement by the Board (April
14). However, the authoring of
such a document in the first
place, the research necessary,
was an accomplishment in itself.

planning stages now for both rock
concerts and country-western, so
that we can try to cover the
major entertainment interests on
campus.
TORCH: In looking back over
your term, is there anything you
would have done differently?
COVERDELL: Probably quite
a few things. The only one that
pops into my head right away is
the strike threat of recent days.
I've been asked that question in
quite a few different ways in the
past couple of months-the last
month anyway. And I guess the
best way to react is the proposal
of a strike threat was made from ·
a straight gut-reaction, an emotional reaction base. And I think,
as far as I can remember, it's
about the only time that I personally, or the student government as a body, has done that this
year. For the most part we try to
work with the system that's set up
now, and if we hadn't stopped to
think and had followed through
with that threat, it could have done
great damage to both the students
and the school.

TORCH: Would you propose a
strike again if the administration
became "uncooperative"?
COVERDELL: It's hard to say,
and it depends on the conditions
that surround it. At this particular time, a strike would have
hurt us on the other issues we had
before the Board at the time, such
as the Bill of Rights and the removal of student funds from the
college, where we get screwed up
every day by the Business Office.
And those were some of the major
reasons why it would not have
been beneficial to the students to
go ahead with the strike. The
Board would have reacted by
slapping us in the face with our
other projects we had before them
at the time. At times, I believe
threats or . . . . I don't know
exactly what you would want to
call it--a st r i k e might be
necessary.
It could come up
again. I hope not. At this time
I don't think it would, but you
can't tell those things ahead of
other items of importance to time. They happen, and they're
us as a student government par-• there in front of you and you've
ticularly are the extension of our got to make the decision.
communications and activities to
TORCH: Is there anything you
broaden our state and national
didn't do this year that you would
communications-to state and
national organizations such as have liked to have done?
COVERDELL: Yes, a major
ASG (Association of Student Governments) on a national level one, and it also happened to be
and OCCSA (Oregon Community one of the major platforms that
College Student Association) here I ran on last year, was estabin Oregon. Communication with lishing a more competent comthese organizations helps us as munications system between stua new student government not to dent government and the average
make some of the same mistakes student. However, once you get
that have been made in the past. into office, you find it's a litOther projects which I think tle bit harder than you initially
should be of major importance in realized. There's a great need
the minds of the students for this for more communications bepast year have been the .... I tween the students of this camdon't know exactly how to state it pus and the student government
since it's a new one really, but who are supposedly their leaders.
since the $10 tuition increase, And as yet I have no real decent
we've initiated a program to in- answer to how to improve that.
crease our revenue by at least We only have a certain amount
$6,000 by the end of summer to of communications media on
be put in a separate scholarship campus to get across to the stufund to help those needy students dents. None of them reach all
who, as a result of the tuition in- the students unfortunately. The
crease, may not be able to come TORCH is one of the best, it
back and finish their education reaches approximately 2,000 and
next year, or those who would not we ·have been attempting to reach
be able to enroll in the first place the students through that medium.
next year as a result of the tuition The PA is ineffective. And in
many cases our own student senincrease.
We're doing this throug·h a ators are ineffective. This is a
campaign of various musical con- primary means of communicating
certs that we are contracting with with the students. The student
various promoters and agents senators have to speak to their
across the country, whereby we various departments and get
as a student government take on comments from them to provide
little or no financial responsi- some leadership for us to folbility-it is all taken on by the low. In many cases, senators do
promoters--and at the same time not do this. They talk to a select
we receive guarantees and per- few, or they don't talk to anycentages for the use of facili- body and report on their own
ties and the co-sponsorship by opinions and biases. This would
our org·anizatioh. Ttiese musical be the first -ste~/ to train comconcerts, by the way, are in the petent 5enators to do their job

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properly. This would help ex- for that particular problem. we·
tremely.
are trying to design programs
other than that I have no real for the future to help those mianswers in improving the com- nority ethnic groups here on
munications between students and campus.
the student government. I think
it's one of the main problems
TORCH: At the April 14 Board
we have, and one of the main of Education meeting, the Board
problems I wanted to tackle this voted to revise the Student Bill
year and unfortunately have not of Rights and Responsibilities
been able to do. other things that presented to them by the curwe haven't done that we had rent student government. Priwanted to, or would have liked mary responsibility for that reto, is to build-and we hope to vision, according to the Board's
do this next year if there's not decision, would be placed with
the same conflicts--is to work the office of the college presiwith the administration and the dent with student participation.
Board hand in hand in building What are your feelings on that
up the minority programs on decision?
campus. There's a need in this • COVERDELL: First, I disarea; however, there are other agree. There wasn't any condiselfish conflicts that at times _ tion passed that night that rehave gotten in our way to where quires student participation. It
we could not fulfill or help ful- was left entirely up to the office
fill this need.
of President Schafer.
We need more housing-lower
Whereas in all fairness, as I
rated housing-than we have stated to the Board that night,
accomplished so far. Many ofthe I agree with the idea and constudents on this campus will not ceptualization of an institutionbe able to afford those nice Adult alized bill of rights, responsiStudent Housing apart m en ts bilities and conduct, it would
which we've finally accomplished depend on many conditions. One,
in getting passed through the the idea, as far as I know,
Board this year. The prices on because it was not ever voiced
the average are lower than in in any way, had not been thought
town, but not that much as to of by the other factions on the
affect the students. We need to college. It's a student-initiated
attain more housing for the lower project. We've gone through much
income people. More housing, hassle and postponement by varperiod. 150 units helps, but it's ious extremes, including the
only a dent in the real problem. Board, already. And as such, if
There's two or three other things. an attempt is going to be made
We could go on for a long time, to postpone it further in order
as to what we had hoped to do to develop an institutionalized
and other problems took priority bill of rights, it should be hanto where we could not. I think died by the students who have
the only one I consider of major done the research, and I do mean
importance-that I really feel research-we've got a boxful of
bad about--is community invol- it. The motion in being turned
vement and commun!ty action be- over to President Schafer's office
tween students of the student and letting him do it the way
government and the respective he wants to is completely out
communities of Eugene and of order. The idea of the moSpringfield, since that's where tion-to instigate an institutionthe campus is right now. Com- alized bill of rights-under the
munity actionprograms involving following conditions Iwouldcomstudents of an academic commu- pletely have to agree with in all
nity and the community that that fairness. Those conditions would
academic community is living in be that there would be a mahas been a great help in many jority of students on the comissues in cities and counties mittee and that it would be chaired
across the nation but particu- by a student. Under those condilarly where you have to get a tions, whereby we're not on a
budget passed. These are some committee just for tokenism, as
of the things. We get ideas for is the case with most recomcommunity action programs from mending and po 1i c y - making
ASG. Unfortunately, we have not bodies on the campus now, it
been able to intitiate that many would be totally fair if we could
of them here because of other come up with something and have
priorities getting in the way. it approved before the beginning
of the next school year.
TORCH: What programs under •
your administration have been
TORCH: Were you officially
designed to as s is t minority notified of President Schafer's
groups at LCC?
recommendation prior to going
COVERDELL: Under the pre- into the Board meeting? Not the
sent administration to assist mi- letter that was in the Board
nority programs? Unfortunately, mailing, but officially that this
like I said, we weren't able to was going to be a formal recomtackle that problem very effi- mendation to the Board by the
ciently at all. Most of the things
were in complying with administrative committees on the problem. We've been unable to work
with the BSU at all this year,
partly through my fault and probably, partially as a result of
me beating Bobby Edwards for
the presidency last year. We have
been working with the American
Indians in attaining recruitment
of more American Indians here
on campus, establishing financial
assistance for them and trying to
get federal grant aid for American Indian programs here. But
that's the farthest we've really
gone. Those programs which we
had in mind to work with the
minorities. in most cases, were
not able to be initiated, or in
other cases where we tried to,
we were blocked from other conflicts on campus. So at this time
all we are really doing is working with the minority program
committees through the admini29th & Willamette
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President?
COVERDELL: No, the letter
was in the Board mailing. I had
reall the letter and we had kind
of authored a verbal retaliation
to points of that letter the night
before. As far as it being a
formal recommendation, or a
motion to change or reconsider
the Board's earlier decision to
review our document and approve
it section by section, no. We
didn't have any idea of this. However, we expected it, especially
after the manner they handled the
tuition increase. We fully expected that Dr. Schafer's recommendation or suggestion, as it
was stated (Aprill4), wouldprobably be honored by the Board,
and this is exactly what would
happen. The most we could do
was de 1iv e r our arguments
against it, our statements pro
and con to it. And . as has been
happening-there has been a
trend in the recent past-they
listened with a polite ear but we
were really not heard.

TORCH: But you were not officially notified as student body
president?
COVERDELL: other than the
letter, no.
TORCH: Back to the question
of student involvement in preparing the Student Bill of Rights,
it was my understanding at the
Board meeting that one of the
Board members recommended
that students be involved in the
preparing of the document to
Dr. Schafer before the motion was
passed. And while it was not included in the motion, it was understood at that time that students
would be involved.
COVERDELL: Oh yes, it was
there. Dr. Schafer himself made
the public statement that students
would be involved, and he even
said probably in a majority. But,
if it's not in the motion, it's not
binding. It could be a public
statement for good PR purposes.
I, myself, have the feeling that
I think he'll follow through with
this. There's no reason one way
or the other-I just think he will,
in this particular case. But it's
not necessary. If he wanted to
turn around and, as far as the
actual process of building this,
leave out students completely,
the motion in the minutes will
have to support him in it.
TORCH: What do you think
the relationship should be between the college administration
and student government?
COVERDELL: The relationship to what effect, to what manner? If you want a broad, general answer . . . . As broad as
I can get, it should improve.
There is very little, if any, communication between the adminis-

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tration and the student government at this time. The only
actual communication we have,
except for personal communication with Jack Carter (Dean of
Students)-he's only one person
out of the administratiolr-is by
my representation on the President's Cabinet, or I believe it's
called the College Cabinet now.
And that is a more formal policymaking, recommending body,
where it's not reallycommunication with the administration as
such. It's a statement and discussion of policies. I think that
if it's at all possible, the entire
administration-from President
Schafer on down through the Associate Deans-and at least the
executive cabinet of the student
government if not the entire Student Senate and students who are
not a part of student government
at all, should get together on a
bi-weekly basis or every other
· week-something like this--and
discuss the problems that come
up and try to find appropriate
resolutions that would be agreeable to everybody for these problems-to find out what each
other is doing, for what reasons, how they are going about
it 1 how it is going to affect the
two different factions. If it's
going to affect one faction or the
other badly, why are they doing
it anyhow?
Could they do it
differently to where it would help
everybody instead of hindering
someone? A simple communication device of this sort should
be initiated. It's been talked
about, but it's never neen done.
other than that, there's very
little relationship between the
student government and the administration until we get to the
formal type meetings that are
set up on campus.
TORCH: You mention there is
a lack of communication, and
the relationship needs to be improved. Would you care to fix
responsibi~ity for that situation?

COVERDELL: Yes. I would
fix the responsibility for the
situation, as far as this year
goes, on President Schafer and
myself. However, it is something that has evolved from the
past. From my experience last
year, I think the responsibility
would be on Dr. Pickering (LCC
President prior to Dr. Schafer).
What happened before that, I don't
know. Dr. Pickering found it
impossible to communicate with
anybody, let alone students-. May_be that set the groundwork to
where we had to tackle the problem this year, and we have not
tackled it efficiently. We've had
our problems within student government and sometimes you forget some things in order to take
care of others. I'm sure President Schafer has been in the same
position. The fact remains that
the communication is not there
and at some time in the near
future it should be initi-ated and •
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start taking place. Whether it
will really be helpful or not, I
don't know. At first it probably
will not. But eventually, once it's
started, I don't see how it could
help but be helpful to both parties.
TORCH: Let me make itclear
to myself. Do you feel that it is
as important to communicate, or
for the administration to communicate, with students as with anyone else.
COVERDELL: Most assuredly.
Ti1at's the only way it will improve the day-to-day working
relationships between the Board,
the Administration and the students- to put them on an equal
basis, or as much as possible.
As was brought out this morning (April 15), it's next to impossible to be completely equal
when you're trying to learn, say
history, from somebody who's
taught it all his life, and you
turn around on a committee with
him on how to improve that subject or the teaching of that sub.;
ject. You can't be on a completely
equal basis. But you should be
treated as equally as possible
by equal r e p r e s e n t at i o n, and
using the same statement again,
while you're sitting in there-three students, three faculty, and
so orr-just sitting there doesn't
equal representation. You have
to be heard and listened to, not
just have a deaf ear turned to
you, and this is what happens
in most cases. You have to be
treated equally in the minds of
the individuals, and students suggestions have to be treated with
respect. If they're rotten suggestions, tell the man so, but
give him reasons why--not just
"because I said so," like mother
tells little boys. If they' re good
suggestions, commend him for it
and give him the same rewards
that a teacher does when he or
she develops a new curriculum.
This type of equal representation.
And unfortunately, especially at
an educational institution, it has
to take place in the minds of
the individual as well as the
overall organizational concept of
the committee. ·You've got equal
representation, you've got equal
vote, and this type of thing. And
it's a hard thing to acquire. I'm
saying this has to be done in
order to fully improve the working relationships between the different factions of the college.
TORCH: Do you feel students
need more power?
COVERDELL: '' Power" is a
bad word, I guess. I don't know.
But it, or "authority," or something along that line has to be
used; but definitely more
"power". Right now the classified and the students, out of all
• five sections, are the only two that
are more or less useless as far
as the overall organization is
concerned. Faculty have representation and the ability to make
policy that is binding upon the
college through SPPC, through
the fa c u 1t y association, and
especially through Instructional
Council. The administration has
the same ability through the College Cabinet, Instructional Council, and their direct communication and recommendations to
the Board, which none of the other
sections have. When we want to
communicate to the Board, we
have to speak on· an informal
level in the form of remarks
from the audience, or be screened
by going through Instructional
Council or the College Cabinet.
And, of course, the Board is top
dog, and the state acknowledges
this--state statutes state that almost everything regarding the
community college can't have
legal authority-the final decision is up to the Board, no
matter what, and that is binding.

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There are very few state laws,
state re gu 1at ions concerning
community colleges. Everything
is left up to those seven individuals on the Board. Classified
and students do not have anything near the type of organization that the other factionsadministration, faculty-do. And
I think we should be include~
taken however many steps up is
needed and included in these
policy-making bodies on an equal
basis. In that respect, it would
be giving us more power.
TORCH: Do you feel it is the
proper function of the student
body president to criticize or.
make negative comments about
the college in public?
COVERDELL: If it is needed.
It's up to the student body president to represent both the views
of the students that are expressed
to him on any particular sub- ·
ject, and what he and those who
attempt to lead with him think
are best for their constituents
at the same time. You put the
two together. If it comes out
that the school is deriding the
students, they are doing something detrimental to the students,
it is our place to let them know
how we feel, and to attempt to
bring out a reconsideration or
a new decision on whatever the
subject was. In many cases, the
only way you can get through to
the Board, unfortunately, and in
some cases the administration,
too, to make them listen to you,
is by denting their public image
to the community. It's something that I wish didn't have to
be done, because it does hurt the
college to a certain degree in the
community, and the college is
what we're here for. But it is
definitely part of the job when
necessary.
TORCH: Assuming thatthe biweekly meetings between the administration and the students,
and other communications improvement you've suggested
come about, do you think such
public statements would be a
necessity in the future?
COVERDELL:
It's hard to
say. I would think not if, again,
the indi victuals in the administration particularly, I think,
would have the harder time doing
it, but also the individuals representing the students can meet
on open ground and with an open
mind and give each other more
or less that equal representation
and be listened to objectively.
Eventually it would come about
that we could take care of these
things on an in-house basis. It
is only when a group of people
speaks on something important
and is not listened to at all, or
not given the chance to speak,
that more harsh extremes are
necessary.
• It would depend upon how objective the administration can
be while working with us, and how
objective we can be in working
with them.
In other words,
communication is not just sitting
together and talking back and
forth. It's believing in each other
at the same time, and understanding, or attempting to understand, each other. And this has
not been done in the past, to any
extreme anyway, and especially
on important aspects of the subjects relating to students.
TORCH: What goals have you
established for your term in
office should you be re-elected?
COVERDELL: I think it's quite
obvious that the most important
one at this time is expansion of
the student orientation in the decision-making processes on
campus. That will be my personal goal, anyway, to try to
bring about some of these changes
on the campus here at LCC. other

goals---again, we can go back to
the scholarship fund. That's
going to be a very important one,
I think. We still have to get the
Bill of Rights passed. That will
be done through the summer, I
hope. We have to completely rebuild our own foundation of student government, rewrite the
constitution and by-laws. Those
we have to work with now are out
of a kindergarten book. It's not
binding on anybody. It's hurt us,
and it's hurt the administration
when they've wanted to hurt us.
other programs-student involvement in prioritizing programs on campus. We've been
hurt by this. The Board has many
different representatives in outlying areas. Programs thathave
been started here are not ever
completed to fulfill the promises
the school makes for these programs because too soon they start
a new one somewhere else. This
is shown in my own area, in TV
broadcasting. Our own survey,
from last year, and we've argued
this point before, shows that a
majority of stations in Oregon
will not hire any new p e op 1e
coming out of school without any
color experience of some sort or
another. The school in its catalogue says you take this twoyear course, get the degree, and
jobs are availatle to you. They' re
lying. The program has to be
finished here before another one
is started in Florence, Cottage
Grove, or anywhere else, or even
a new one here on campus. Again,
the student involvement in communication, We've talked about
that quite sufficiently.
I think two areas that work
together, but yet they are separate, are academic re f o rm.
There should be student involveThe school
ment within that.
professes, and in most cases
they are right, to be one of the
most innovative schools in the
nation-among community colleges. We need student involvement within these innovations,
helping to outline what the needs

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are by the community and by the
students for a new program. And
of course we have other programs
which we hope to work with chartered organizations on campus
concerning the environment, ecology, pollution. Employment is
a bad problem here in this particular area. The students should
give some of their time and
energy in trying to improve the
situation. The Placement Office here at school does not do
the job it can do, or that it should
do. We do not have the working
relationship, or the foundation for
such in the community, in many
cases, in different job areas to
where we can improve employment for students coming out of
school here. I think students,
student government in particular, should work with the school,
with the state, and with the city
in improving the situation. It
can be done. And again we get
back to some of the others we've
talked about before-community

action programs should be started if for no other reason than to
give some knowledge in the community's mind as to what we're
all about here at LCC, and if for
no other purpose than to get the
budget passed .
But the re are more far reaching advantages than that to
community actionprograms. Especially the poor. We can help
the people there through what we
learn here. And then, housing and
minority programs, which we
have discussed quite sufficiently,
I think are others on the list oJ
issues or goals that we hope tc
attain next year. ,figain, some oJ
these were on our list after being
elected last year. We haven't hac
time to get around to them,
or to get around to them to an}
ext e n t, because ofothe r priorities that came up. This is natural
and some of the programs won't
get started next year for the same
reasons. But that's some of the
ones we hope to get into.

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Presidential intf!rv•ievi: . . :'.Suzanne McGill

TORCH: When you got your
petition, you were running for
Second Vice President and you
have now dropped out of that
race and are running as a writein candidate for president. Why
did you make the change?
McGILL: At the time that I
ran for Second Vice President,
I put in. . . Well, I just decided
at that time there had not been
another person running forpresident, and I got a general opinion from students that they didn't
want either one of the candidates.
And I put out two petitions, in
fact. One of the first ones was
for a Student Senate position. So
I got 200 signatures and possibly
175 views that the students didn't
want either one of them. And I
finally realized, after the peti- '
dons were int that this was true-- .
that the students ·did need another
choice. I went to a Student Senate
retreat; I talked to three of the
Board members; found out as
much as I could from them and
some of the administration and
some of the students in the Student Senate; came back from that
and I had made an appointment
with about six students who sat
down and decided who would run,
and to find a person to run as a
write-in.
At the time of the Senate meeting at the coast, I decided it would
be me. I came back to the meeting, and before I had a chance
to say "I think that I would
like to do it," they had all come
to the conclusion while I was
gone that it should be me. And
that's why I decided to run as
a write-in. At that time I cancelled with the Board of Tellers
my Second Vice President petition.
TORCH: What do you believe
are your primary qualifications
for the office of the president?
McGILL: Concern. For the students themselves. And I have
ways that the students can be
more involved in student government. My primary concern is I
didn't feel there is the communication with the Board that there
should be. And I feel that I have
one area in particular, that I feel
I can become closer, and can relate to them a lot better. At this
time I can't say what that is,
because it might hinder the
chance of me being able to do
that. And that seems to be the
main concern-communicat ion
between the Board and the students and the Student Senate. That
was e v id e n t in the strike proposal, and on the Bill of Rights
for example. Students lacked
communication.
On the proposed student strike,
as I saw it, there was a great
lack of communications. This is
what I got from the students: the
student interpretation of the
strike was that the Board called
a closed meeting which the Student Senate was not allowed to
be in, and that they sprung the
whole thing on them. And that
wasn't true, because in the firstI don't remember the exact datebut the first proposal for a tuition increase was, I believe, for
$14, and it was voted down, 4-3. ,
Mr. Ackerman suggested at that
time that this could be considered
again. And a lot of students didn't
hear that. So there was no closed
meeting, and at the next-or
thereafter, another-Board
meeting, they proposed a $10
increase and that passed. At that
time, there was a strike proposal,
thinking that this had happened
behind their backs. And I don't
feel the Board operates that way.
I do feel that I could work with
them.
The Bill of Rights was another
example of lack of communication. I ask why wasn't this presented in a definite manner to
the students, rather the president of the Student Senate, that

it was going to be considered.
Why wasn't it presented to them-the possibility that it was going
to come up in this last Board
election or Board proposal, to
combine it into an administration, staff, Student Bill of Rights?
I ask why? I knew about it before.
It wasn't too long before, but
the Board did tell me, as a student. That's just another example, directly related to the Board.
And I feel that I can work with
them, and that is one major thing
that needs to be improved.

TORCH: Would your working
with the Board be based on a
personal friendship with some
of the people?
McGILL: No. I feel that I've
been a landowner at one time,
and I feel that I've been in a
business, and a lot of these people
I feel I can relate to and put
myself in their position. It's not
only the Board members but the
community.
TORCH: You also mentioned
that you had ways for students
to become involved? Would you
care to elaborate on that?
McGILL: There is just a simple
solution of letting students know
who their student senators ar~
what the Student Senate is doingvery simple. Every day a bulletin is put out of what is happening that day, and that could
go to students-very simple solution. There could be a student
senator in the office at all times.
There are thirty or forty. There
c o u I d be one e v e r y h o u r
in there. Many times in the past
year-I would say five times-I went to find something directly
to do, to get involved. One time
was the only time I got response.
This was with the AMIOO area,
manpower, for the development
of staff--a project that was possibly going to come to Lanewas looking over Lane. It would
have informed staff of how to
deal with minorities, how to teach
underprivileged, or handicapped,
everything. It was the only time
that I, as a student, could actually
come up and get in. One out of
five times. I worked on that for
about a week, with very little
cooperation from any of the Student Senate that was working at
that time, that was involved in
AMIDS. Not implying that all the
Student Senate didn't work.
One of those persons who didn't
help much seemed to put a lot of
burden on Warren (Coverdell)
last year-,>ut a lot of his work
on Warren. I don't think that
should happen. I think it should be
avoided. I think the Student Senate's responsibility is to have
everybody there working for and
not against the students.

benefit the students.

TORCH: You think that should
come out of the Student Senate
budget?
McGILL: I think so, because it
is for the students. It would be
for their benefit, and it would be
on campus.
TORCH: What past experience
or knowledge do you have of
governmental procedures or parliameni:ary procedures?
McGILL: Well, parliamentary
procedure came in high school.
That's something I do remember
about, and that's one of the president's duties, when someone else
takes over, is to refresh him.
A lot of things have been in the
past. I haven't been in the Student
Senate last year at all, other than
attending th e meetings. As far
as parliamentary procedure
goes, I don't think it's aproblemo
I feel that by having a newpresident each year, which I hope to
propose--! sh a 11 propose--the
new . . . . the executive offices

realize that, and I'm sure a lot
of people do. I don't feel that they
w o u Id by dropped, if they' re
worthwhile projects, and surely
they all are. And, too, if it
was stated that- they would only
serve one term . . . . I had
thought about running for a year
and so had somebody else who
will be working on this thing,
although I didn't actively state
this until a couple of months ago
and then realized the possibility
of running against Warren. I
think if · he wouldn't have been
running this year, a lot of things
could have developed.

into an institutional Bill of Rights
and assigning it to the LCC President's office for composition?
McGILL: I feel that they should
have adopted the Student Bill of
Rights. And I feel that the people that in the past couple of years
that have been working on it-there were still about three members that were present who are
very enthusiastic about the whole
bill and who, if it had been adopted, would have been just as enthusiastic--I'm sure there are a
lot of other studentswhowould
be--in revising it at a later date,
in talking with staff, in getting it
into a combined institutional Bill
of Rights.

TORCH: Can you assume that
every time someone runs for
office he will know in advance,
TORCH: In other words, comand that he will agree with the bine the institutional bill of rights
proposals and projects that have with the Student Bill of Rights?
been going on?
McGILL: Yes. And I think
McGILL: Well, it would be that there would have been a lot
unrealistic to say that he agrees of cooperation, because as it
with all of them.
happened--this way it was very
disheartening to the students.
TORCH: Okay. With that in And as it developed, one of them
mind, do you think it would be in fact walked out and said he
would not have anything else to
do with the Bill of Rights. And
I think if he had had the opportunity to revise it later, he would
have. So I was very unhappy
with that decision, although now
Dr. Schafer is actively working
in getting it going. But still, it
was disheartening to the students
at that time.
TORCH: Do you feel the responsibility should have been assigned to the President's office
or to the students? You said it
was disheartening. Do you have
any further feelings?
McGILL: Do I think it all should
have been assigned to the students? No, I don't think so. I
think that, as I said, after this
was proposed-students to work
with the staff members and the
administratio~hey would have
been willing, I felt, to go ahead
and work on it.

I want to be held one year. That
way potential candidates for the
next year can work with the one
that is in office that year. As a
result, we would have "x" number of students going out every
year into the community that will
benefit the community from what
they've learned here.

wise to elect a different candidate
each year?
McGILL: I think so.
TORCH: If you had beenpresident this year, what would you
have changed? You mentioned the
Bill of Rights and the strike, and
the tuition proposal. Would you
have done anything differently
with these or any other projects
that were handled this year?
McGILL: As far as the strike,
certainly. As I stated--what actually happened and what they
thought happened--it was just a
misinformation. Now, as I stated
what happened in the strike-when I stated what I heard had
happened--this was what the students were getting, not what anyone in particular stated. Just an
example of m is info r m at i on
somewhere that I can't explain.
With the Bill of Rights, as I
have stated before, there was a
definite problem that the Student
Senate didn't know more about
what the Board was going topropose before. And I think that would
have been handled differently. I
think I would have made it a
point to know what was happening.
I sensed it as a student, and I
think as the president I would have
still sensed it--that something
was going on like that--from the
Senate retreat, and again before
the Board meeting.

TORCH: Would this be just for
re-election to a post, or would it
TORCH: Incommunicationwith apply to a person who holds an
the students, right now the largest executive office and runs for a
medium to get information to the different executive office? If
students is the newspaper, and we someone were first vice-presido print the minutes from the dent one year, and then decided
Senate meetings, stories about to run for president the next
what goes on in the Senate meet- year, would this be allowed in
ings, and the agenda of Senate your proposal?
meetings that are coming up. Do
McGILL: This is something
you think the handouts will get that's come up in the past three
any more response than the paper days. There are members of the
would?
Student Senate right now, and
McGILL: I think it would get myself, discussing it, and that's
as much response. The paper is as far as we've reallydecidedon.
once a week; I don't mean it as That there would be some sort of
competition for you, but I mean proposal like this. The limitait as a lotoftimes--nowlkn ow tions, and so forth, will be diswhere I can pick those up, and cussed in the next few weeks.
I pick them up and there's a lot
of things that I'd read in the paper
TORCH: Have you considered
that I'd forgotten were that day. the possibility of programs or
projects started by individuals
TORCH: Have you investigated in office and not being completed
the feasibility, and the cost in- in one year, and then beingdropvolved for that kind of a daily ped by the next person that takes
bulletin?
over that office--the expense and
McGILL: I realize that, yes. I time involved in those things not
know how much it costs, from carried on under your proposal?
the Print Shop. I've had things
TORCH: What are your feelMcGILL:
Those projects
printed up myself. But it is a started this year, as anexample, ings on the propM;aI to incordirect spending on campus to are worthwhile p r o j e c ts. I porate the Student Bill of Rights

TORCH: What do you think the
relationship should be between
the student government and the
college administration?
McGILL: (no response)
TORCH: I think that's a little
ambiguous, but there's no way to
word it without being ambiguous.
All we're asking, really, is what
kind of relationship do you think
should exist between the twobetween student government and
the administration.
McGILL: Well, of course, a
working relationship. And that's
the onlyanswer. Andjustworking
constantly to keep that going. The
problem would be the personaIities. I think that's there any
• time. It's really difficultto come
up with a solution for that.
TORCH: Do you feel it's a
proper function of the student
body president to criticize or
make negative statements about
the college in public?
McGILL: Oh, definitely not.
TORCH: Why?
McGILL: Well, first of all
I'm really concerned about community feelings of the college.
And if the president's going to
make negative remarks, the community is going to think as a
result, "well, if he doesn't think
much of the college, why should I
vote on this bond issue? Why
.ihould I do anything?" I think
another major thing in communications is communications with
the community.
TORCH: Do you think the student body president should be sort
of a PR man for the college by
not making any hassles?
McGILL: Well, I just said he.
shouldn't make any negative comments about administration.
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(Continued from page 7B)
TORCH: How about what might
be termed as constructive criticism of the administration?
McGILL: Well, that's altogether different than negative remarks. We're talking about generalities now. Everything else is
popping up, you know, and it just
depends on the particular case.
I can't make a statement like that,
because if something came up
you might want to make a statement-not negative, but .... It's
hard to speak in generalities.
TORCH: Okay. Let's take a
s p e c i f i c then--the tuition increase passed this year. Would
you feel it your place, if you
thought this was . . . . First of
all, do you think it was wrong for
the Board to increase tuition?
First of all, I'll
McGILL:
have to admit that's really a
very delicate question.
TORCH: Okay. Hypothetically,
if you thought this was not in the
best interest of the students and
you were representing the students, would you criticize this
move by the Board?
McGILL: I would just make a
general statement that I'm not one
to get too excited and too negative in remarks. I would be very
. careful, because in doing that ••..
ROGERS (o b s e r V e r):
In that last string of questions,
it seems to me that you are
searching awfully hard for some·
kind of an answer. You seem to
be trying awfully hard to push
her in one direction or the other.
TORCH: The last question referred to criticism, which she
said was too general. I tried to
get something specific to work
with to decide whether she would
criticize or not. Maybe the ques-

tion could be reworded to make
it clearer.
McGILL: If I felt I did not
want the tuition increase, I
would--"c r it i c i z e" is a bit
harsh. I would make comments
if I didn't agree to it-IF I didn't
agree. I think you should reword it. I'm really uneasy with
the way that's ....
TORCH: Okay. Do you feel
it is the proper function of the
student body president to constructively criticize or make
negative comment about the college in public under any circumstances at all? Considering any
circumstances that might come,
up, would you feel it proper?
McGILL: Okay. Constructive
criticism or negative remarks.
TORCH: Right. You can answer those in two ways if you want.
Together or individually. Do you
feel it would be proper to make
constructive criticism?
McGILL: Constructive criticism. I really think that any
type of criticism would further
hinder relationships.

where along the line.
TORCH: Do you see any ways
that this could be done that are
not now being used?
McGILL: Yes, I do. In particular communication with the
Board. I do have a way, but I
don't want to elaborate on that.
If I get elected -when I get
elected--it might lessen my
chances. I think it's just something, one particular way of being
more involved with Dr. Schafer
and the Board than there is now.
And, of course, through the press.
That's obviously one way, and a
good way-just about the only
way. Elections. Election turnouts. If our students don't vote
at Lane, and it is covered by the
p res s-our student body elections next week-and the community is going to be concerned about
student apathy. So when the bond
issue comes up they will probably sense some of this and they
won't vote.

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McGILL: Again reiterating, first three pages of the by-laws.
if there is not the concern of the That's one example. Nowthey're
Student Senate . . . . Let me put interested. They know what your
it this way: if there is somebody duties are, so they can ask you
that the students can relate to, more important questions.
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McGILL: No. Because I can't tion--this c om m it t e e here at
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Board member in the next eleccriticism, making it public.
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TORCH: What do you believe this committee that there be a
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sons for apathy, they didn't know
what was going on. Many of them
have been out of school for eight
or teh years-since high schooland they don't remember exactly
about the student government and
aren't really aware of it. . A
majority of the students are
aware, but I think with the percentage that are not, you should
start from the bottom and teach
them what it's about, and what
they can do and what's available
to them.
Again, a Club Council. Clubs
have representatives to the Student Senate-they have student
senators-but there is a plan
right now that is being discussed
for a Club Council in which a
member of each executive for
each club would be combined,
making the other clubs aware of
what's going on on campus, what
each one is doing that they can
take back to their own clubs. And,
in fact, the Student Senate money
could stay on campus. One
example, Switchboard, which is
a very good organization, was
given money that they could have
gotten from the community. I
know examples of the ADC association receiving thousands of
ct o 11 a rs from the community.
I'm not denying that Switchboard
isn't a good thing, but I feel that
with the Club Council and support
from the Student Senate we could
have an equally effective organization right on campus that would
benefit each and every student,
and not maybe some that happen
to be involved.
TORCH: What do you think is
the Senate's main problem, and
how would you solve it?
McGILL: As I see it, a definite personality conflict. I've
been told one of the members of
the Student Senate has refused
to do anything and put the burden
on the president this last year.
That's definitely a p rob 1em,
having to do two jobs. I think
that in a severe case like that
it takes a 2/3 vote of the Senate
to get them out and somebody else
in. Some of the cases could be
resolved, but in a case like that
• where it can't, I can't see ...•
Another example, a small quotation: "you voted against me
on this bill because you don't
like me," and that's a wrong way
to run a Student Senate. I plan
to have a summer session-before the students leave this summer--4n getting the student senators together, get them to working, get them involved, to get
them to think about a lot of it.
And hopefully a lot of them will
be around this summer, because
I plan to be doing a lot of work
this summer. And finding out
before next year just what's
happening. This personality thing
may come up. We should know
about it, should realize it, and
solve the problem before we go
into the first Senate meeting,
and then there would be no accusations of "you voted against me
because you don't like me."
That's no place for it.
TORCH: Do you support any
other person running for office
in the elections ?
McGILL : The only person I
know enough about to actively
support is Ron Davis for second
vice-president.
He's bee,-i
working with me ever since I've
been running as a write-in for
president.
He's very enthusiastic. He's aware of the personality conflicts in the Student
Senate last year and realizes
, that it could happen to any, and
if it does happen next year when
he is in, then he would do his
best to resolve it. He is concerned about every student, as
I am. Not any particular group,
but just students as a whole.
I wholeheartedly suppor t him.
He' s really enthusiastic.
He

TORCH, April 20

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works al 1 the . . . . He sleeps
about five hours a night, and
other than that he's going constantly. Not only for me, but
for everything. I really admire
that.

TORCH: Do you feel the stu•dents at Lane need any more
power? If so, what kind and in
what areas?
.
McGILL: Currently they nave
the potential to have .... They've
got a lot of power now. What
do you mean by power ? Do I
believe they need more power?
No. What was the last part of
the question again?
TORCH: Then you think they
have enough power now. What
kind and in what areas would
you say they have enough power?
McGILL:
Maybe it's there
and they' re not utilizing it. Are
you referring to the B i 11 of
Rights?
Again, it's generalities. I don't know what you're
interested in finding out. You're
just leaving it up to me to ....
TORCH: The word "power"
has been used a lot latelystudent power, and so forth. It
should be clarified how you feel
about that term, and whether students, under your definition of
the term, have enough power
within student government-decisions in administration policies, school policies, etc. Whether they have enough voice-whether they have enough actual
say, rather than tokenism. I
think that's primarily what the
word "power" pertains to.
McGILL: Well, I would have
interpreted it differently than
you. The way you interpret it,
I think there's a potential for
more power. Again, there comes
up the idea that I have that ....
Well, it's just a basic trust,
understanding, communication.
The problem seems to be the
Board. And that's what I'd concern myself with. I realize that
there are other areas, but the
problem is there and I feel that
with having more trust, communication both ways with the Board
and through myself ....
TORCH: Do you have ways
that you can gain more trust and
understanding that you can air?
McGILL: None that I can air.
But I think as a result, if you
have that--what we'd all desire-that relationship, the trust, that's
what has to be there for more
power as you interpret it.
TORCH: How would you interpret it?
If you've said, I
haven't understood it yet.
McGILL: No, I haven't said
it because I hadn't heard--as
it was put to me in the question,
it sounded like a quest for control. At the time the question
was presented, I thought that's
what the . . . . No, I'm not out
for the control.

TORCH: What goals have you
established for your tenure in
office, should you be elected?
McGILL: Then again the president's main concern, the goal ....
TORCH: What would you like
to accomplish if you are elected?
McGILL: Well, again, the Club
Council. I think there are a lot
of programs that Warren has
worked on that should be continued. It seems like I've stated
most of them before in one way
or another.
ROGERS (o b s e r v e r):
There was something you discussed this morning with me,
concerning Adult Education.
McGILL: Oh, yes. That I'm
very concerned about. This issue
was brought to my attention today,
by an instructor serving as a
delegate from the adult education
class I inquiring why the Adult
Education students weren't allowed to vote in the elections.
This seems kind of strange, particularly at a community college
such as Lane. It should be investigated. If I am elected, I am
going to do all I can for these
disenfranchised students. They
do represent the community. And
I feel they do have rights to vote
in the elections.
TORCH:
The main problem
there is do they pay a stuaent
body fee and get a student body
cardT That is the only way you
can vote in the student body elections.
ROGERS (o b s e r v
r):
Are they permitted to pay a student body fee? I don't know.
TORCH: Neither do I. They
are not required to. Whether they
are permitted to, I don't know.
McGILL: I believe, the way
the instructor asked, he was
teaching a class of elementary
school teachers in Eugene.
TORCH: I thinkalsothiswould
require going through the entire
process of filling out the registration forms, and I don'tbelieve
they do that now.
McGILL: Another subjectthe other group that has proposed
student housing is a private firm
and I see the potential of other
student housing at a lower cost.
It's another thing ·-like -A ct It
Ed.-it will have to be investigated, too-that I think concerns students who would spend
a lot of time involving the students and their workable knowledge.
It's hard to elaborate
on this because there are a lot
of things that I really don't knowwhat it involves building a house.
I've never done that. I think it
could be worked out as this is a
learning institution. And I would
like to investigate the possibilities of student involvement, even
in construction, design-whatever-of student housing for the
students of Lane.

the interview, I think at one point
we got sidetracked-on the subject of your background. In talking about past experience in positions of leadership, and of parliamentary procedure, I think parliamentary procedure led us off.
Would you care to elaborate further on your background--positions you've held, your qualifications?
McGILL: Inhighschoolldidn't
hold any official positions. I was
in charge of community relations.
It was a very small town. I was
the one who went to the community
whenever anything needed to be
given to the students, or any way
the students should be helped out.
And it seems to me almost all
the activities--from Homecoming, from picnics to carnivals-I coordinated.
TORCH: And I believe you said
you had been in business?
McGILL: Yes,Iwasinamanagerial position for one year here
in Eugene and I was in charge of
hiring, firing, communication
with the workers. I worked very
fine with them, and didn't have
any problems. In this position, I
dealt a lot with the public. I feel
that I can better realize the different areas of the community,
the positions people hold, and getting involved in Jaycees and people involved in Jaycees .... just
about all aspects of the community. I can understand them and
their feelings.
TORCH: One question that has
been brought up that I think should
be ans we re d---several people
have expressed concern that you
would not have time for your
children if you are elected president.
McGILL: I as a mother understand that concern. I think that I
have also been concerned about
students who have been in student
government this year, realizing
the problem and how many hours
Warren has spent here, directly
because of not having the co-

operation of another member. I
think they are judging by the time
Warren has put in this past year,
and the burden of the other person's job was put on Warren's
shoulders and naturally Warren
had to carry through. Are you
concerned about my children, or
are you concerned that I'm not
going to do the job?
First of all, I can talk as a
mother, and how I feel about my
children.
They're very welleducated, happy, balanced, normal children. I live across the
street from my sister. They're
always taken care of. That seems
to be a concern. I have people
working on my ca mp aign with
me--I could name ten people who
are sitting in the cafeteria right
now who you could ask what kind
of mother I am and how my children are, that would give very
complimentary answers.
The question is asked whether
I would have time to devote to my
children. Is it a valid question.
I don't think so, because the question could be asked another presidential candidate "do you have
enough time for your wife and
children?''
I can tell you how much I love
them, how much thPy mean to me,
but that is a personal thing, and I
had that taken care of in my mind
before I even thought about running for president.
I held a managerial position for
one year. I worked ten hours a
day. They're still happy, normal,
adjusted children. It's unfortunate, but I realize society has a
''mother image," as you said.
TORCH: Are there any other
comments?
McGILL (from a prep are
statement): This election campaign has been marked by a surplus of demagoguery and vehemence. A little more reason and
a lot less rhetoric might better
serve the needs of the students
of LCC.
This is essential if
anything is to be accomplished
after the election.

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TORCH: Are there any other
comments that you would like to
ROGERS (o b s e r v e r): make that we haven't touched on
He means do you believe that yet ? Anything we haven't brought
the students should have a realis- up that you would like to?
tic ability to control, at least in
McGILL: Another issue is the
part, the things that go on on transportation. There are workthis campus.
able things going on right nowMcGILL: Yes.
sharing rides with people in the
area-but I see a great possibi TORCH: There is some con- lity in the expansion this year of
cern that to fulfill the role of the city bus· system. There's a
president adequately, there is possibility of having a bus run
not enough time to do an effective from Eugene from 7:00 in the
job of being a student. Do you morning to say 10:00 at night.
think it's possible to do aneffec- The question is asked: ''are
tive job at both-as president and there enough night students ?"
as a student?
I think there are enough that are
McGILL: Okay. Are you re- not here that would like to come,
ferring to last year?
and as a result of the city bus,
could come. There's a possiTORCH: If you were elected bility of having one from Sp r ingpresident, do you feel you could field. I could see where this
effectivel y fulfill that job and could come about.
your student r esponsibilities ?
TORCH: In thinking back over
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TORCH: Why are you running
for the office of president?
BARBAROSSA: Obviously because I think I'm the best qualified and because I think I can
do the best job. And I think that
I can probably lend some new,
imaginative thinking to the student government as well as reflect program ideas that serve
student needs.
TORCH: What types of imaginative thinking would you have
in mind?
BARBAROSSA: Well, for
example, I contend that the issue
about student apathy may be a
real one, but that student government has been negligent in that
they have not done anything about
it. What I hope to do is set
up what I would call p r o j e ct
SEEK--search, evaluation, education, andknowledge--SEEK.
And this course would be mandatory for all new, incoming students,
In that course a student would
have an option to exercise his
field of interest. In other words,
every student who comes on this
campus has an outlet--a hobby or
something they would like to do-their thing. Now, whether that is
a social thing, social activity; or
whether it's an interest to serve
human needs, human concerns;
whether it's an interest in a
political field; or whether it's an
interest in, say, economic areas
--in other words, your education,
your economic, political and
social fields, whatever your thing
is.
Within this course, you would
be able to select that option, and
you would work in the community
or in the field or through research, and you would get credit
for it. So that later on in life,
a student would have a more keen
appreciation for the real things
that are happening outside of the
classroom--not just what he gets:
the theory, and the class and lab
approach to involvement in our
society. But he would actually
GET to be involved. If he wants
to be, let's say a singer, we should
help him achieve that aim. He
should learn "what does it take
to be a singer?" "What do I
have to do?" If a student wants
to become politically aware and
involved, then we should show him
what things he needs to do,
starting with the local level--the
community, state and national
levels. So what I'm really saying
is that through project SEEK, a
student would get to do his thing,
learn about it, actually be involved in it, and get credit for it
at the same time.
Now, within that course I would
also see to it, or try to integrate
in there, an awareness of what is
happening at college. What is
college life about? What does it
entail-responsibilities as a student; options as a student; what
the college has to offer in the way
of facilities, services such as
child care, housing, health,
In
curriculum, options, etc.
other words, I would hope that
he would try and learn how a
college really functions and what
his role is as a student. At the
same time, what are the college
responsibilities toward that student? I would try and get the
administration and the faculty,
on a rotation basis, to make some
kind of approach as to what administration sees as their role.
In other words, they would get
a pretty good scope of what's
happening at the college.
You mention that
TORCH:
this would be a credit course.
Have you investigated this possibility with the administration, or
is this hypothetical ?
BARBAROSSA: No, it's not.
I have talked to some administrators and a couple of the Deans,
and they fee-1 -that with -sorn.€ kind

PresidentiCJI ·interview:

of adjustments, it's not that far
out or far-fetched. It would, of
course, have to be negotiated for
like any other project or course.
But I feel that the flexibility is
there, and Lane does have that
kind of flexibility so that it's not
that unprecedented.
You said
That's one thing.
''what kinds of things." Another
project which is right now being
talked about in the Board Room
is called project REACH. This
is for research, education and
action in the community home.
One of the things that I am keenly
interested in is community involvement. We are a community
college. We have been accused
of being isolated--the campus
physically, and in our thinking.
Well, I hope to dispute and rebut
that, and the way you do it is to
provide avenues of involvement
for our students, specifically that
student who is disenfranchised
because maybe he is a hippietype, maybe because he is a Black!,
a Chicano, an Indian, or an ADC
mother. These people can serve
as a resource to the community
college in that there are many
remedial services in the community which the agencies responsible for handling--such as
housing, child care, welfare, employment--are tearing their hair
out right now because they cannot
really get to the people in the
home. All right, I saw what better
group could appeal to their peer
groups than the minority and disadvantaged student OI;l this cam•
pus?
So I will set up a project under
It's
the work-study program.
going to be sponsored to the community services public agencies
at the University of Oregon. The
"Action Now" group, which is a
graduate student program at the
U of 0, as you know, will sponsor
it and they will supervise it. The
students will interview and inform and come down to a person- .
to-person basis with the families
in their home, and will explain to
them the different options in the
area of education, employment,
housing, health care, and so forth.
And what of course happens here
is that the community is doing a
service--the community college,
that is- -the student is gaining insight and he feels he is contributing in a positive way to solutions. The agencies, of course,
love this because they are underbudgeted, they are understaffed,
and they're crying, like I said,
for this kind of outreach thing.
So what we will be is an extension
of that.
These are some of the things-the broad areas. More close to
the student himself, I will set up
a forum which will meet once a
week. This forum will consist of
one guest speaker, or a guest
personality or whatever; one administrator; two faculty; and two
students. And the forum will be
open to the public. Each week
it will be a topic of concern, hopefully a contemporary issue, and
more hopefully a local issue.
Now, the public will be able to
carry interaction with this forum
if they so desire--any questions,
anything--g ripes, complaints,
suggestions on this campus.
At the same time, I will set up
a communication in that every-

thing that is happening in the
Senate will be posted on every
bulletin board in this building,
on this campus, and in each department--of what is happening
now in the Senate, what is pending,
and what will be the upcoming
issues. So that at all times the
students are informed of what is
happening.
I, myself personally, will set
up a noon rap session every day
in the cafeteria--not in my office,
but in the cafeteria or wherever·
the greatest influx of traffic is-so that I can have. ~he 1 ear and

that way really tune in to what
the students really need. And
this way I hope to be a communicating student body president
that is trying to meet the express
wishes of the student body.
Those are some of the imaginative things. If you will look at my
record, I have demonstrated that
I can organize and implement.

you know how to use it, if you
know how to work it. It can be
a very positive thing. If you don't
really know things like budgets,
if you don't know how to marshall
through an issue, then you're
dead.

TORCH: If you had been president this year, is there anything
you would have done differently?
BARBAROSSA: You know hindTORCH: What primary qualifications do you have for the sight is better than foresight.
But at the risk of that, yes. One,
office?
BARBAROSSA: Well, I think I would not have called for a
that I am a responsible and ma- student strike on an impetuous,
Two, I
ture individual. I don't have for- impulsive movement.
mal education as such, but lhave certainly wouldn't become ina wide variety of experience in effective by trying to challenge
the world of hard knocks. I have - the school Board (of Education)
been very politically in v o 1v e d in things like threatening to fight
since I was 18. I worked for the against the school budget. You're
Kennedys extensively. I worked only spiting yours e 1f--cutting
personally for B(,lbby Kennedy in your nose to spite yourself. I
the Southwest in the organizing of would have found more ways to
the Viva Kennedy Clubs. I was involve the student body, and I
the campaign manager and state would try to find more issues in
coordinator for Fabian Chavez which we could involve ourselves
who ran for governor of the state
of New Mexico. I did a lot of traveling. I have always worked
with 1a r g e groups of people,
starting with the political aspect.
This gave me some insight as to
how you deal with people. I think
this has to be a thing--learning
to deal with people. I have served
as chairman of the Urban Community Action C o u n c i 1--board
chairman, that is--for one year,
and the Community Action Council, of course, directs the Head
Start, the dental, the housing and
m an power development programs in this county. You know-That has given me, I
OEO.
think, a considerable amount of
experience because I have been
dealing both with the -='J:mreauc ratic and with the pove~ty peo- '1
pie, and believe me, it's pretty
hard to transcend one to the
other.
I have always been involved
in action projects. I have set
up a housing corporation--Build,
Inc. --which is a self-help housing project for low-income families in the community. This has
received very, very wide support
and encouragement from HUD,
Farmer's Home Administration
back in Washington. I went there
and they were really struck by
how we did it. We did it by,
again, marshalling the resources that were community college isues, rather than national. Naof the community. The students
the para-professionals, the pro~ tional issues are always there,
fessional people at the university and it's real easy to talk about
level, National Alliance of Busi- them--you know, like the draft,
nessmen, the community action the war, pot, whatever. I'm
programs--all formed a consor- saying that I would have tried
to find more things to do on camtium for housing.
I don't want to really enu- pus to affect the lives of students
merate, but that's all I've been here. For example, one of them
is in v o 1v e d--in many, many is that every student has had a
things. I fought for child care real hard time really learning
to be implemented on campus and where he can get guidance,
off campus. The Student Aware- whether it's a counseling need,
ness Center, which I set up this ( career analysis, how you drop
past summer. I think that all of and add a class--all these kinds
these things add more. You can't of things that a student needs to
help but learn when you're in- know. I would have seen to it
that a booklet, and I will do this
volved in the core of activities
and I consider that this is what it when I am in office, that a bookhas been for me--a knowledge or let is given out at registration
a gain which I can in turn use to time with the packets that would
tell the student all his options -•
help other people.
that would tell him how he can get
TORCH: What experience or all these services very readily.
know ledge do you have of go- And that would be solved pretty
easily. And, really, we're again
vernmental procedures?
Well, for talking about communication. I
BARBAROSSA:
example, I took of course the nor- would have tried again to meet
mal government courses that you more needs of the students than
have to take, history, so that gives we have in the past.
me some. But I worked with
TORCH: You are very active
legislative sessions, both in Oregon and New Mexico. I testified in other projects both on campus
before the session here in Oregon and in the community. Do you
three times. I worked quite ex- feel that with these other committensively with the speaker of the ments you would be able to devote
house (in New Mexico), Fabian adequate time to the presidency?
BARBAROSSA: That's a quesChavez, who ran for governor.
So I'm very, very familiar with tion that has been put to me many
parliamentary (procedure) and times. And I would say this--that
how you have to mechanize the the position of student body presiintricacies of government, which dent i s very complex. It's a
it is--it's a very complex thing large responsibilitiy. I would
and it ,can , be . useful to y~ if have to drop a'lld curtail all my

other activities because I would
feel that as student body president
many of these needs could be
served that I'm already doing
while not in office. What I would
try and do is incorporate some
of these a c t i v it i e s into the
function of student body president. But what I would do, of
course, is devote myself and become the most effective, the
h a rd e s t working student body
president they've ever had on
this campus.
TORCH: There has been some
concern that because of your
activities, you're spreading
yourself too thin. Som~ people
have seen a tendency, for
example, to initiate a project
and then to withdraw from it--as
in establishing the Student
Awareness Center and then disassociating yourself from it and
going on to another project.
Would you care to comment on
this?

BARBAROSSA: Yes. This is
one of the things I see--that it's
hard to discern at what moment
you start and you quit. However,
I feel that this is one of my
functions--to initiate programs,
get people involved in that initiation and hopefully gear or build
the people to the point where
they can take over the project.
No man can be all things to all
men. And no man can bog himself down by being the one personality--in other words, that
would run the whole show.
So what it takes then is other
people--a team effort, and this
is what I try to do. It's just
like the president of the U. s.
He has immense branches of
government--a gen c i e s--which
have to function. He has to surround himself with men capable.
He has to use his judgment and
discretion at what point he intervenes and at what point he uses
executive power. So I'm saying
that mine is going to be a team
approach with students having a
lot of the input. But I will, in
the final say-so, have to use my
judgment, according to my background and experience.
TORCH: If you are elected, do
you plan to hold any other office
while serving as president?
BARBAROSSA: No, I do not.
You are presently
TORCH:
working with Financial Aids ....
BARBAROSSA: Right, I am the
coordinator for the off-campus
college worN-study, which I set

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up, by the way.

Om ar Barb aros sa

of the things that we see. I'm an cause they said "how could you
American. I love my country. do this to us?"
TORCH: Why are you willing I love what this school repreI explained that here all of a
to give up a job that pays so well sents. I love the fact that in this sudden was an issue where the
for one which pays less than half society if you really have the guts, liberals were a majority and I
the money?
the determination, and you're saw them just as oppressant and
BARBAROSSA: Because there willing to work these things out, just as down -and hard on a conare sometimes times in society that we can make changes. And we servative issue as they had acwhen you have to sacrifice if you have to believe that. If you don't cused conservatives of being
really believe in change, and if believe that there's hope, then prior. I felt that if 25 people on
you really believe what you stand we're all kidding ourselves and this cam9us want to go to ROTC
for. And if sacrifice is going to we might as well quit. Then every class--1, myself, wouldn't go to
be monetary, then I don't really guy can look out for himself. And ROTC class; I , myself, don't
mind it as much, because if I that is not the kind of future thatl believe with a lot of things ROTC
did not, I would be remiss and I would like to see your children or represents--but I am willing to
would be just as materialistic my children grow up in. We have give the right and protect the right
as those things which I am trying to make a better world. And it has of those individuals that so desire
to change and fight against.
to be now. We can't dwell on it, just as much as I want my
yesterday, and we can't wait for rights to do what I want. And
TORCH: Do you see any con- . the future. We have to react now. that's when you have to come to
flict of interest in a person who
maturity and that's when you have
has a half-time staff position
TORCH: Why, then, would you to deal with integrity of what you
running for a student office? describe yourself, as you and believe in.
BARBAROSSA:
Not at all, others have done, as a controverbecause I am a student. I have sial figure even am o n g those
TORCH: In your interview with
always been a full-time student. peers who have the same attitude? Hater i us, while discussing
So because I have the status of
BARBAROSSA:
Because for charges by some that you are a
half-time staff, I don't see how one, if anything, I fight probably "manipulator," you state: "if
that would be contradictory with harder for the things that I be- I am a manipulator its within
my stand that you have to in- lieve than most people. Any time the democratic process." Do
volve students. And I see myself you are going to be as involved you feel that manipulation is
as a student counselor. And in as I have been, and active, you're ethical a n d justifiable simply
that capacity I'm showing that going to step on somebody's toes.
because it is done within the
involvement which we are asking Anytime that you are trying to democratic process?
for.
challenge the enfranchised estabBARBAROSSA: I don't like the
lishment, you're going to get word manipulation. I don't like
TORCH: Are there ever con- some backlash.
Anytime you the term manipulator. Rather,
flicts between the staff position challenge any institution, whether it's working within the system
and the student position?
it's education, government or like anybody else does. The guy
BARBAROSSA: I have never business, they're going to fight that knows, as I said earlier, how
been in the position of conflict, you back. And as a result, if the intricacies really relate to
and I don't see where it would be, you are dedicated to your ends, each other and knows how to utibecause as a. matter of fact, I they don't like that. As a matter lize them so they can respond to
have gotten in trouble because I of fact, I've had people make the effective change--1 don't know
have taken the students' side and statement, "you' re an intellec - what you call it, but what I'd call
fought for the students' viewpoint tual militant." And I say "well, it is working within the system,
probably much more adamantly what do you mean by that." And within the democratic process.
than I should. My job has never one guy said ''well, I'd rather
really been contingent on the that you hit me, because I can
TORCH: How would you define
fact that I have to kowtow or deal with that, but I can't deal with manipulation? .
concur with administration of a guy that just sits there, and I
BARE}AROSSA: Well, the way
with the Boa rd.
can't argue or change his trend of you say it connotes some kind of
action and philosophy." In other shoddy or self-interest type of
TORCH:
In your campaign words, I don't want to say that thing. I don't see it that way.
literature you use the quotation I'm too rigid in my goals, but What I'm saying is you use what
''Some men see things as they I'm not going to be swayed by
you have to the best advantage that
are and ask why, I dream of trivial, personal or immediate you have. You do that in your
things that never were and ask incidents.
school, in your job, in society,
why not," which was used by
wherever you're at. You have to
Bobby Kennedy. Also, in a recent
TORCH: Would you say, then, deal the best way you can with the
interview with TORCH reporter that the controversy is not so situation. I am saying that I have
Jon Haterius, you said that you much the goal, but the tactics been more e ff e c t iv e in dealing
are yourself controversial for used to reach the goal?
with bureaucratic institutions
the same reasons the Kennedys
BARBAROSSA: Somewhat, at than most people have.
are. Could you explain those times.
But more than that l
reasons?
really believe that my unwillingTORCH: What do you think is
BARBAROSSA: I wouldn't say ness to change or swerve from my the proper role, or function, of a
the SAME reasons--SOME of the philosophy and my goals, more student body president?
same reasons.
than anything else. And as I have
BARBAROSSA: To represent
First of all, some men see said, anytime that you are in- the express desires and wishes of
things as they are, and I dream volved in any way--as many ways the student body as best he can.
things that never were--1 am a as I have been--you're not going To use his judgment, to use his
product of today's youth, and to- to please all the people all the knowledge, and to use whatever
day's youth is confronted with un- time. You're not going to serve he can to try and articulate their
paralleled problems. I'm sure all the people all the time. So needs to administration, to the
that many people say they were what l do for one group incurs Board, to the rest of the student
here before. The reason we are the wrath of the other.
body, and to the faculty. To negomore conscious of them is the
Yet, as an example, you know, tiate on behalf of the students, to
fantastic speed of communication we kPep giving labels to people provide that leadership, to motithat exists today--the media. about being conservative, about vate, to give direction, to instill
People have ready access and in- being liberal. Well, I don't like confidence.
stant knowledge of everything that that, because I sometimes take
is happening.
the liberal stand and sometimes
TORCH: What do you think
In addition to that, everything I might go with the conservatives. should be the relationship behas grown- -population, pollution. I have to decide on each issue and tween the student government and
We have engaged ourselves in a ·its merits. Just because I'm a the college administration?
war which I don't think is any liberal doesn't mean that I esBARBAROSSA: I think they
longer justifiable. We have be- pouse everything that's liberal should be equal entities. Pure
come aware of the race problem or for liberals. As witness, the and simple as that.
in our society. We have become draft situation here on campus.
aware of the po~erty conditions The Senate was very uptight about
TORCH:
Would you care to
that affect many segments of our the draft, and they assumed when elaborate on that? How would
c o u n t r y- -Appalachia, .the New we had the vote about ROTC that you accomplish it?
York ghettos, Los Angeles, the I was going to vote against having
BARBAROSSA: Well, you know
migrants, and so forth. Well, ROTC on campus.
there are many decisions made on
people who look at all these kinds
Everybody was trying to seek this campus through the Instrucof things and turn inward with my thoughts on it, and I would tional Council, the President's
negative outlooks immerse them- not give them because I was not Cabinet, the Board, through other
selves in such stupendous nega- going to influence in any way, various committees. I would hope
tivism that it really is very dis- shape, form--and this is some- that l could get students and try
couraging. Well, to me, I look thing, again, that I have never to impress upon them the fact of
at it the other way around. To done. I have never tried to in- how important it is that they reme, it's the challenges that are fluence any Senate m:?mber in presPnt the student body in these
there. What are we going to do their voting. I have always done committees.
about it? I dream of a better my thing alone when it came to
I also would try and stay on top
world. I dream of a better future. deciding. And when the ROTC of the issues as much as I could
And I say why not? In other thing came up and I voted that and deal with them as they come,
words, I like to think in a posi- we allow ROTC, I had people so that when it came time to extive way. I'm an optimist, in screammg at me and some of pound on them we'd deal from a
spite of mv background, in spite my best {riencls, were, fu,rious,be_-, ','p osition of sttength. That's the

only way you could bargain. You
can only do that if you have all
the facts and the knowledge, and
the only way you can gain that is
by staying active in it, staying on
top, questioning, probing, becoming involved, making sure
that students are not being taken
advantage of in any way. At the
same time, the students have certain responsibilities in dealing
with administration, just like administration does to the students.

TORCH: Do you feel students
at Lane need any more power?
BARBAROSSA: They need not
more power, they need more guidance and more voice in the decision-making process.
TORCH: Do you know of any
ways they could accomplish this?
BARBAROSSA: I have just said
that by making sure that at the
commit-tees, at the Board,
through administration, the student body president, through appointments and through his ·own
activities--make sure that any
thing that is occurring or transpiring is not going to impede, or
going to be a disadvantage for the
students. I cannot speak on anything until I'm there, because
right now it would be hypothetical
for me to say.
TORCH: Do you think it's the
proper function of the student
body president to criticize or
make negative comments about
the college in public?
BARBAROSSA: No sir. Definitely not.
TORCH: Not under any circumstances?
BARBAROSSA:
I don't think
that anybody--wha t was your
word again?
TORCH: Do you think it's the
proper function of the student
body president to criticize or
make negative comments about
the college in public.
BARBAROSSA: Okay, you're
asking me two things now. First
of all, I don't think that student
government, administration, or
anybody, speaking as an elected
official or spokesman, should
ever make negative or darogatory
comments about another group
in public. However, constructive
criticism--defin itely. I'll be the
first to say that. If I don't believe the way I see something,
if I don't like what is happening,
I'll be the first to criticize. But
I will not do it in a threatening
manner. I would try to do it
knowledgeably and articulately.
And I'd try to do it in a manner
that is . . . well, should I say
businesslike. You don't accomplish anything by making threat- •
ening gestures or speeches.
TORCH: What is your reaction
to the proposed student strike?
BARBAROSSA:
I was probably the first student Senator to
stand up and speak against the
strike. I do feel that the tuition
increase, the issue that brought
the strike situation up, was not
fair. Nobody likes the raising
of prices. Nobody does. However, striking would not have
been the s<;>lution to the tuition
increase.
N:umber one, we would have
had the distinction of being the
only community college--the only
educational institution--on strike
while the legislature was in session. We've got to be realistic ... they' re the men that dole out tin!
money.
. Number two, the community
has been very good to LCC. They
have over and over voted for our
budget increases. You don't show
appreciation by student strikes.
It would ruin our image in the
community, and the community
support. Number three, striking
is an impetuous, irash thing when

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it's called in the twilight hours
of the next morning. I like to
negotiate at the table. I like to
negotiate under an orderly basis
as adults.
TORCH: What do you think
is the Senate's major problem,
and how would you correct it?
BARBARC$A: I think the Senate as a whole is trying to do a
good job, basically. However,
the problem that has resulted is
that the Senate has allowed itself
to get involved in personalities
and con f Ii ct s rather than objective issues. The Senate has
tried to become involved in issues
which do not really relate to the
community college.
I would hope to reverse this. I
would hope to imbue in the Senate the idea and the philosophy
that we're here to represent
various departments, various
needs--we need to deal with them.
Not because I like this Senator
or I don't like that guy, or I
don't like what he represents.
In other words, not indulge in
trivia, not indulge in personalities, but to be mature and objective in their decisions. And that's
the thing that has not occurred in
the past.
They have also failed to communicate with the student body.
The biggest criticism I have
heard from students is "who is
my student senator?" They have
failed to generate enthusiasm for
the Student Senate. Now let me
qualify that.
There are some
student Senators who I think are
trying to do a good job, and are
doing a good job. Unfortunately,
as I said, too many of them have
become involved with conflicts
that deal with personalities, rather than issues.
TORCH: How would you propose to prevent this involvement
in personalities?
BARBAROSSA:
By having a
workshop and a retreat before
the Student Senate convenes,
which we should have done this
year. We did it at the end of the
Senate year. We came away from
there, believe it or not, learning
som-9 things about each other, and
learning that maybe this guy
wasn't a bad guy after all. Why
did a guy feel about certain things
the way he did?
So we need to get together as a
group and learn to interact with
each other. Le a r n where we
stand, and then make a commitment--i nd i vi dually and as a
group--that we are going to be
dynamic and that we're going to
do some real constructive things
in this coming year. Because it
is an opportunity for us to get
some good experience in government. Later on in years it will
pay off. So what we do here,
right now, will leave a mark for
all other Senates and presidents
coming in. I want to leave a
mark that they will have to aspire
to. I want to leave a challenge
to them. I want to leave an unequal record of success, through
teamwork.
TORCH: At the April 14 Board
of Education meeting, the Board
voted to revise the Student Bill
of Rights and Responsibilities
presented to them by the current
student government. Prii;nary
responsibility for that revision,
according to the decision of the
Board, would be placed with the
office of the LCC president, with
student participation.
BARBARCS:;A: Ha!
TORCH: What are your feelings on that decision?
BARBAROSSA: I laughed because of this thing about the
primary responsibility with the
president, with student participation. I would like to sav ori(.C,ontip\led on p;i_ge 12B)

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mary participation of the president AND the students--EQUAL
participation.
TORCH: That was not the way

it was presented at the Board

meeting.
BARBAROSSA: I'm saying this
is what I want, though.

TORCH: How do you feel about
p rim a r y responsibility being
placed with the office of the president?
BARBAROSSA: That's why I'm
laughing. That's kind of funny.
It's always this thing--"with student participation." Hell, I want
equal participation. I don't want
"primary responsibility with the
president, with student participation" or "primary responsibility with the students, with participation by the president." I
want equal participation.
But I really do feel that the students did a lot of hard work on the
drafting of the document, and I
was really ticked off about one
thing. The faculty, "all of a
sudden," became interested in
responsibilities, rights, and conduct on this campus. I'm saying
if they had been on the ball, they
would have taken the initiative.
So once again the students have
proven that maybe they do have
a little bit more foresight, because they' re the ones that took
the initiative. I would hope the college uses
their (the students') document as
the basis from which to draw a
campuswide document, because
by the admission of the Board's
own chairman, he said "this is
one of the best documents that
I have ever seen drafted." So
I'm saying if I'm elected, you
can bet that the students are
going to be, if not majorially,
at least equally represented on
that committee that is going to
draft the campus document.
TORCH: What are your feelings about the proposal that the
administration draft a campuswide document and INCLUDE the
students' document?
BARBAROSSA: No sir. That's
patch up work and it's inexcusable
if it's allowed to happen. Again,
I reiterate, the basic drafting
of the document will be done from
the Student Bill of Rights if I am
elected president.
TORCH: How do you propose to
insure that?
BARBAROSSA: By making
sure that the committee that is
designed--if it has three people
on it, and I don't care if it's
administration, faculty or classified, we' re going to have three
students. And I'm going to have
the chairman of the Board be the
moderator, because he has consistently aligned himself and been
receptive to student needs. I
deem him to be a fair and impartial man. He is the legal representative for the student body at
the U of O. He is very up-to•date tQ the issues on students.
So I would feel that either they
appoint a student to moderate or
the chairman of the Board. Because whatever the administration comes up with--we will have
student representation in proIf there's three of
portion.
them, there's going to be three
of us. Six of them, there's going
to be six of us. Pure and simple
as that. We're not going to get
caught in the vortex of faculty,
classified, administrative, and
students.
TORCH: Do you support any
other persons running for office
. .
this yeai:?
BARBARO~A: I support and

Barbarossa

BARBAROSSA: No, it cannot egotistical, and aggressive--as
will support whomever the student body elects. I am running be, because like the president of you note you sometimes are in
my own campaign and I have not the U. S. or the president of any your interview with Hateriustaken any participation for or •corporation, or the president of do you think this would interfere
a g a inst any other candidate, the college, you have to be ob- with· your ability to work with
either vocally or in any other jective and try to represent all any segment of the college comway. I would say that one of factions and all facets of this munity?
BARBAROSSA: Well, so far it
the things, for a president to be campus. I have proven that I am
effective, would be that he would objective and I have worked with hasn't been a problem and I don't
surround himself with some peo- all the groups, even though I feature that it will be. I think
have not taken the leadership that these are---H people call me
ple who think like him. And I
would say that one of the offices role. I have helped other stu- aggressive, it's that I'm aggreswhich I deem very important is dents do their thing and get their sive for their cause, not my
the office of the treasurer, be- pet projects incorporated on cause. Not my personal cause.
cause that office and the office of campus. So it would be incon- So I would hope to be aggressive
the president have to work very sistent with me if I were to say in espousing and expounding on
closely together. I would think I would no longer be involved the needs of students again. Anythat it would be healthy if we in the concerns and needs of the thing that I have done, if you
had a change in that office, if minorities. Obviously, I am a will look at the record, has alwe're really to succeed. And minority. I am a Chicano. I am ways been for othP.rpeople. other
therefore, I would, yes, support proud of that. And as such, I groups. It would be the same
David Redfo~ for the office of recognize that they have certain if I were elected student body
treasurer, simply because it needs which have to be answered. president.
would help me to be more And I would continue to do so, ,
TORCH: Would you like to bring
no matter where I am in life,
effective in my job.
but never at the expense of the up anything that hasn't been
TORCH: Most of your activ- • college or the student body, or brought up during the questionities during the past year have anybody else for that matter. I ing?
McMEANS (Campaign Manabeen focused on improvement of am an American ultimately and
ger): You should clarify your last
the status of minority groups. first.
statement about it being a stepWould that continue to be your
TORCH: Do you think being ping stone in your life.
central focus during your term in
BARBAROSSA: Welllofcourse
viewed by some as controversial,
office?

see my future as being involved
in decision-making processes
through the legislative means.
I will hope to attain education
as a college administrator, but I
will also work in the community
and, if the people deem it fit to
elect me to office, this is what
I aspire to. And I see the position as student body president as
giving me good experience in that
area, because the only way you
can make changes is to be at the
core of where decisions are being
made. And this is why I am involved to change it. otherwise,
you don't have any basis for bitching about it, or griping, or complaining; if you'i:e not willing to
pay the price of involvement. I
would hope to say this, thatthere
are three good candidates running. I think that the student body
has a wide variety of choice. I
would hope that the election is
made on the basis of qualifications as it alludes to p_ast performances, of platforms, ofphilosophies, and I would hope that
---and I know that students are
aware and mature enough to decide on the basis of issues rather
than personalities.

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