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Nov. 27 & 28

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Vol. 7 No. 41

4000 East 30th Avenue, Eugene, Oregon 97405

Students, administratio n
argue welding tech issue

Funds allocated
to support Board
in complex fight
The ASL CC Senat e informed
the LCC Board of EdJcation Wednesday night that the Senate has
appropri ated $1,000 of student
funds to be used by the Board
for condemnation proceedings against the devel opers of the proposed 105-unit garden apartments
west of LCC. Both the Board
and Senate fear LCC's growth
might be limited and the LCC
Basin might experience environmental difficulties if the apartments are built. (See ASLCC
stor y, this page.)
But at its monthly meeting
a week earlier the Board stopped
short of condemnation, and instead adopted measures they hope
will insure the college's future.
The Board was also shown revised plans Wednesday night of
the LCC Performing Arts Building by the architectural firm
of Unthank-Seder-Poticha. The
proposed structure would cost
an estimated 1.23 million dollars.
The orginal plans were priced
at 1.5 million dollarso
Performing Arts Department
chairman Ed Ragozzino said the
ne\vly revised plans were "not
ideal, but workable.' ' He told the
Board that his department would
rather have a smaller complex
that would be completed now than
to have a large complex that would
be finished only as money permitted.
Deletion of an outdoor plaza,
amphitheater, costume and storage area and dressing rooms
were the only major differences
in the two plans. The 600 seat
theater and stage is the same
in both plans, with the exception
of the ceiling which will be lowered.
Ragozzino said the proposed
structure would serve current
student needs but added, there
would be " very little, if any,
growth.~'
The Board is scheduled to
vote on acceptance of the plans
at their next regularly scheduled
meeting, Dec. 130

November 21, 1972

'Sadly ironic'

Welding Technology ,students and the LCC administration began
to work towards a settlement in the welding technology uproar yesterday afternoon when, for the first time, all the parties involved
were able to get together.
The meeting was attended by Jim Piercey, associ ate dean of
instruction, Bud L and, Industrial Technology Department chairman,
several instructors, a counselor, two labor union representative s,
welding students, and members (LCC students) of the LCC chapter
of the American Welding Society (AWS).
The meeting was scheduled so that Piercey could give his fo rm al
answers to a 11 point list of requirements that the AWS presented to
him two we eks ago (See TORCH, Nov. 14) .
Piercey stated that he had onl y investigated the probl em into the
first year of the progr am, but said he would examine the second year
at a later time.
Piercey, for the most part, concu rred in theor y or totally agreed
with most of AWS' s demands but withheld c·omment on three points.
These were,•the progr am not offering state certification during
the day,ewhether the program is in fact an open-entry-open-exit program,eand the quality (and the college's hiring practices) of welding
instructors.
On the first two points, Piercey said that the present program is
able to accomplish both, but may not be set up in the fashion that the
students would prefer. But Piercey disagreed with the students that
LCC and the state did not employ the proper means to evaluate an
instructor's competency to teach a welding class. Piercey said, " If
students don' t think an instructor is qualified they should get out of
the class."

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Thursday, a group of Eugene citizens will celebrate Thanksgiving a little differently. The Eugene Friends of the United Farm
Workers will be serving a dinner of beans and tortillas. The group
is calling this dinner a Solidarity Thanksgiving Dinner.
fhe dinner will be held at St. Mary>s Catholic Church Parish
Service Center, 285 W_. 11th, A Mass will be said at 2 p.m. and
dinner will begin at 3 p.m. The public is invitedo There is no charge
for admission, but donations will be accepted.
The Eugene group was formed to support Cesar Chavez and the
United Farm Worker Union which is presently involved in a boycott
of California-Arizona head lettuce.
Mel Kang of the group said, '' It is sadly ironic that while most
people sit down to an abundant table, farm workers cannot afford to
buy the food they help produce.'' (Photo by Ole Hoskinson)
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Pre-registration eliminated for Winter Term
Once again the computer is at
the heart of student problems as
the up-dating and reprogramming
of the entire computer program
for the admissions office will not
be completed in time for Winter Term pre-registration.
LCC Registrar Robe rt Marshall said-that the elimination of
Winter Term pre-registration
was not something that the Admissions Office wanted, but rather was forced into by computer problems. Marshall said that
the Admissions Office is upgrading their data-systems to in-

ASLCC Senate grants Board funding

with hopes of saving sewage lagoon
The ASLCC Senate allotted $1,000 to the LCC Board of Education Tuesday, Nov. 14 for the Board to use to begin condemna_tion proceedings against the developers of the proposed 105 umt
garden complex next to LCC. The Senate said their move was
made to preserve the Russell Creek Basin and prevent the growth of
an ''urban spral."
Both the Senate and Board fear if the apartments are built
the sewage lagoon will be overloaded causing a restriction of growth
at LCC and possible environmental effects. But at their monthly
meeting Wednesday, Nov.8 the Board stopped short of condemnation
and instead adopted an agreement that stipulates the types of wastes
that can be dumped into the lagoon and the methods of testing, as
well as lagoon maintenance. The Board also directed the administration and Board lawyer to examine other methods of preventing such
an overload.
The motion stipulated that the money is to be used for no other
reason then than condemnation proceedings.
In other business the Senate moved to send two delegates to
the Metro Region Oregon Community College Student Association
(OCCSA) meeting in Portland and to send four delegates to LinnBenton Community College for an OCCSA planning session.

crease service to the students,
but unfortunately to do this the
data-systems have to be altered
and this takes time which eliminated the pre-registration for
Winter Term. However, the Registrar said, pre-registration is
something he agrees with and it
will again be present for Spring
Term registration.
Marshall said that the matter
of pre-registration came up last
year as a point on which budget
cuts could be made. He said that
t he Priorities Review C o m mittee, (PRC) which was appointed by the college president to
review all college expenses, suggested that the college drop pre =
registration as a means of reducing costs. However, Marshall
said he fee 1s that pre-registration as a student service, has
worked well at LCC a!ld is •)ne
service he would like continued.
He emphasized that at Lane,
where many of the students are
working their way through college, pre-registration enables
them to better co-ordinate their
class schedule around their job
hours. He added that in the past
pre-registration has accounted
for one-fourth of the total term
registration.
Marshall said he does not foresee any major problems in the
winter scheduling, but he added
that any student who wants to get
a specific class schedule should
be sure to register during his·
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When as k e d how he was doing, Dave Edinger replied,
"Great!" This is an amazing reply, considering the fact that fi
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and both hands on a car for over five _days.
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participating in the Vic Alfonso ''Put Your ~and On a Toyota" M
marathon in Eugen~. The c_ontest_ant ~ho keeps his hands on the car
: \ for the longest per10d of time will wm a 1972 Toyota Corolla worth {:\::
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Edinger claims that his wife Vonda told him, "If you love
me one iota, you'll bring homi~ a Toyota."
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• and Allen Renil are his "mission control" and he is the astronaut, they feed' him and provide moral support, and keep him
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Edinger has two large foam rubber pads to put over himself @
for insultation, and a cardboard box enclosure, complete with an il
electric heater, to keep his head and hands warm. He said that he ~1
• can sleep all right standing, but that it gets cold at night.
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The rules require that contestants, who must be at least 18, U
keep both hands tno gloves) on the car at all times. Both feet must @
be on the ground ~d the con~estant must be i!1 a standing position
at all times. Edmger, who 1s currently runnmg for ASLCC Sena- ti
tor from the Mass Communications Department and is a TORCH j
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Editorial

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The Welding Program - a question of student rights
Students who have been reading the past
several issues of the TORCH concerning the
new Welding Technology Program. may be asking themselves, "Why are the welding students
so concerned over a simple curriculum change?"
• The question at issue is not a '' simple curriculum change;" It is an example of an unforgivable violation o~ basic student rights.
The Admi.n istration ignored proper procedures
and channels in changing program curriculum.
The overall student body should be aware of
a,d concerned with this manuever.
The program was drastically changed this
past summer by Bud Land, Industrial Techno\ogy
Department chairman. He claims the change was
made to meet the needs of the local prospective
employers and to give students a more viable
program. But at that time the change had not
been approved by the Curriculum Committee,
Instructional Council, the Administration, LCC
Board of Education, nor the Oregon Board of
Education. The new program has since been
approved by all of these bodies with the exception of the State Board of Education, which
will soon make its decision. TM a,jministration
has assured us that it will be approved by the
state.
Land instigated this change on the advice of
the We!ding Lay Advisory Committee and socalled recommendations of an Oregon Technical
Institute (OTI) report.
The TORCH has examined the OTI report and
finds that the report might have been misinterpreted by the administration (See page 8).
The Advisory Committee is a small group of
local shop owners and managers.
The committee is Mt representative of employers in the area, state, or nation. To be so it
would have to include representatives from labor
unions, professional organizations, students, selfemployed welders, and large corporations (presently the only large corporation represented on
the committee is Weyerhauser.)
There are several questions which we raise
concerning the Advisory Committee.
• Take for instance 20 identical arc welding machines that are in the welding service
area. These machines, (purchased from one of the
committee member's supply house) appears to
be an example of duplication. But it appears
to us that students should get experience on a
variety of machines, not just one. Why did the
d1~partment purchase 20?
• Somi~ students have expressed the opinion

that represented committee members pay lower
wages than most welding shops and m~ght be
afraid of technically-trained employees who would
want higher wages. Why hasn't LCC investigated
these accusations made by the welding students?
• The Advisory Committee suggested, _ and the
Industrial Technology Department acquiesced to
abandon certification from day classes and pipe
welding. News of these changes did not sift
down to many students until two weeks after
classes began.
Certification is viewed by most students involved as a very important part of a welder's
chances to get a job.
Certification tests are taken on pipe plus welding practice bn pipe gives a student experience
in all w·elding positions and practice on the material that is used for certification.
At the present time welding students can only
work on pipe and obtain experience necessary
for certification during the Adult Education classes during the evenings. Many students cannot
a~tend these classes because of job commitments
and because adult Education does not come under
the GI Bill. Therefore, we ask, again, why
students were not considered, consulted, or inf or med on these issues ?
We 11a ve examined the OTI catalog listing their
two year program. The OTI program appears
to be a combination of LCC's old and new programs. This could possibly be the answer to the
whole affair. Why couldn't LCC have followed
the OTI curriculum?
It might be interesting to ask Mr. Land,
since he refers so much to the OTI Report,
if he has asked OTI's opinion of the new curriculum. Also, if h,3 has made changes in thn
other areas the report recommends be repaired,
such as, safety conditions in th,~ shop, wtder variety of arc welding machines, and additional
representatives on the Advisory Committee?
The TORCH is of the belief that there is more
involved than what has surfaced thus far, and
will continue to investigate the matter.
Furthermore, we condemn the administration's attitude of unconcern, and believe the LCC
Board of Education acted hastily in ratifying the
program. We feel the Board should investigate
the problem further.
We have raised num~)rous questions here and
we ask that the Industrial Technology Department and Administration to respond s•:> all read,ars can examine their answers.

Vote NO on Constitution
Next Monday and Tuesday the LCC student
b:::,dy will be asked to ratify a new ASLCC
Constitution and By-laws. If students vote to
ratify these documents, as they are presently
worded, students will give almost unlimited power
to the ASLCC Senate-power that the Senate
could "constitutionally" prevent the students
from ever regaining.
Nov. 9 the Senate voted to change Section 3.0
of Article X of the Constitution to read: "Passage
of Am,~ndments to the By-laws shall be by twothirds vote of the votes cast by the STUDENT
SENATE." The section orginally read that twothirds vote of the STUDENT BODY would ratify
amendments to the By··laws.
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student vote on each amendment would hamper
Senate effectiveness. But the By-laws is the most
important document students have. Its the By-laws
that determine the qualifications for senate offices, payment to student body officers (from
student funds) regulations for elections and, m:::>st
importantly, initiative, recall and referendum.
If the Senate is given this unlimited power
to change the By-laws any time they wish they
would also have the power to make it impossible
for any student to petition for special elections.
The measures the Senate could pass without
fear of student reprisal is unlimited.
We strongly recommend that next week _students vote NO on these documents

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Special Report from Washington --

Violating the Spirit
By ,Jack Anderson

1972 Pulitzer Prize "\Vinm•r for National Reporting(Copyright, 19i2, by Unitecl Feature Syndicate, Inc.)

Washington-The Soviets have protested bitterly to Washington over
the rush of military supplies to South Vietnam in anticipation of a
cease-fire.
This has put the Soviets on the spot, since they gave Hanoi
guarantee of US good faith. The Soviets also q1ietly pressured
Hanoi to end the fighting. They went so far as to imply that Soviet
military aid might be curtailed if the war drags on.
Strictly speaki_ng. the United States has not violated any understanding. Not until the shooting stops does the proposed agreemfmt call for a halt of military shipments (except for replacements)
into South Vietnam.
In an obvious effort to strengthen President Thieu's hand
before the cease-fire goes into effect, the United States has swamped
Saigon with supplies. The deliveries of warplanes and h~licopters! in
particular, has transformed the South Vietnamese Air For_ce mto
one of the world's largest, with a new total of 1,850 aircraft.
The Soviets have charged this violates the spirit of the truce
negotiations. They point out that the North Vietnamese can't match
the sudden US build-up and, therefore, have been placed a~ a lastminute disadvantage. This has caused Hanoi to question the
Soviet guarantee of US good faith.
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Footnote: US reconnaissance fhghts and electromc momtors
have detected no equivalent movement of supplies from the North
into South Vietnam.

Washington whirl

• SECRET DEAL?- Informed sources claim President Nixon
reached a secret understanding with Premier Chou En--lai last
February that the United States v;on't pull its forces out of Europe.
The Chinese are eager to have the United States maintain a military
presence in Europe to draw Soviet forces away from the tense Chinese-Russian border. The President assured Chou there would be
no American military withdrawal from Europe, although reductions
are being considered. Our ·sources say the President's assurance
can't be described as a secret agreement but, more accurately,
a secret, informal understanding.
• US Bribary?- It has been whispered around the White House
that bribery was used to overcome President Thieu's opposition
to a cease-fire. There is absolutely no indication he was paid off,
himself. But our sources have official knowledge that other South
Vietnamese leaders were slipped money to help persuade Thieu to
go along with the US cease-fire agreement. This sort of blackbag diplomacy isn't exactly uncommon in Saigon, Our sources
have heard Philip Habib, for ·one, tell privately how he bribed opposition leaders when he was the political top officer at the US
Embassy in Saigon in 1965-67. Now ambassador in Seoul, Habib
was heard to say he used to carry " a little black bag" in Saigon.
'' From that little black bag/' he is quoted, "we bought out any
opposition." While Henry Kissinger was trying to .sell the ceasefire to Thieu, Habib left his post in Seoul for a rush trip to Saigon. A spokesman denies that bribery played any part in these
$aigon negotiations. He would say only that Habib flew to Saigon to
discuss "Vietnamese matters" with Kissinger. Habib couldn't be
reached for direct comment.

Behind the scene
• MUST Mustn't- An important scientist in the Manned Underseas Science and Technology (MUST) Office, part of the Commerce
Department, is also a principal officer of a company which furnishes
MUST with midget submarines. MUST rents submersibles for undersea research. One of the half-dozen "science coordinators," who
participates in the decision on whether to rent a midget sub, is
Dr. Robert F. Dill. He also happens to be a founder, director and
major stockholder in General Oceanographies, a Newport Beach.
M'.JST's deputy director, James Millet: admitted
Calif., firm.
to us that he was aware of Dill's relationship with General Oceanographies but claimed Dill "exerted no undue influence'' on decisions
to rent the company's subs. Dr. Dill was unavailable for comment.

e NAVAL SABOTAGE-- Sabotage in the fleet has become so
serious that Navy security engineers are studying ways of locking
on the metal plates which cover in~pection holes. Sailor saboteurs have removed the plates and thrown in dirt or metal shavings
to foul gear boxes and other moving parts. The damage slows or stops
the ships and costs thousands to repair.
• CIA ECHOES- CIA agents accused of fostering the opium
traffic in Southeast Asia can take consolation from a precedent set
30 years ago in the same area by the old office of Strategic Services. In a book soon to be published, called "The ass in World
War II," author Edward Hymoff writes that a;s agents parachuted
into Burma with silver coins and opium to pay anti-Japanese Kachin irregulars. "If there was any moral considerations," writes
Hymoff, an ex-OSS man himself, ''they were over come by the
realities of war and military operations."

e SECURITY CHECKS-The FBI is quietly checking on 7,000Arab
students and teachers in this country. The G-men want to make sure
none of these Arab visitors are terrorists who might attempt terror
tactics against Israelis in the United States. Meanwhile, in Russia, intelligence reports tell of police checks on hundreds of thousands of
Soviet citizens. The police are asking to see their registration cardsa sort of domestic passport which Soviet citizens are supposed to
carry. The reason for the crackdown, the police explain, is to catch
"criminals."

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Youth hostel prepares to close doors
Ron Saylor, Board chairman
for the Eugene Youth Hostel and
Switchboard, announced last week
hostel operation will soon cease
if financial problems don't improve.
The Eugene Youth Hostel is
an over-night lodging house for
persons needing a place to stay.
It also houses "Switchboard' ' an information and referral service for the community.
The Hoste 1, located at 412
Jefferson St. in Eugene, opened
last summer after a first effort
to house travelers in local houses
failed because of thefts.
Ac c o rd in g to Switchboard,
when they first started the overnight referral service, over 270
homes we re 0'1 file offering
sleeping space, but guest thiev~
ery soon dwindled the list to
zero.
With the loss of the referral
service, the Switchboard leaders decided to form a travelers
hostle. After acquiring the building codes, the Hostel received

by Ron Hamblen

The chessboard is a fatal place.
There, more so than in the real
world of life, the glare of a
flaw is revealed for all to see.
A Knight, played to Queen Two
(when the right place was Queen
Bishop Three), sets up a chain
of events that produces a weak
Queen-side of two Pawns faced
by the enemy's three. The pawns
come marching on, to produce a
Queen, and one resigns because
there is always another day (and
another game). Would that life
were so!
Greek tragedy focused on a
specific idea-that of the Fatal
Flaw, known (and dearlybeloved)
to us all as hubris, false pride.
The plot of a Greek drama entails the drawing out of this
hubris, exposing it, and allowing
it to consume the hero. In fact,
the hero himself allows it, is
incapable of stopping it.
So, too, with a chess game.
We, and our opponents are
given a stage (the chessboard)
and, at the beginning of the game,
no one knows who will be the
chorus, or who will become the
tragically flawed hero hurtling to
his own destruction. The hero
loses, and the winner has the
place of passing final judgement
with that final word, "Checkmate!'' The Greek chorus also
functions as a voice of final,
commentary judgement.
This sounds quite fatalistic,
and, to avoid a deterministic
existence, we must turn to Benjamin Franklin to introduce the
subject of chance:
. . . we learn b; Chess the
habit of not being discouraged by present bad appearances in the state of
our affairs; the habit of hoping for a favourable change,

'' Fate is the hunter, I'm the object, and you guys are the only
thing in his way."
and that of persevering in
the search of resources ...
one is encouraged to continue
the contest to the last, in
hopes of victory from our
skill; or, at least, from the
negligence of our adversary.
So, remember that chess may
sometimes seem like Greek tragedy, but actually it is more like
life: if one can't win with overpowering skill, there's always
the chance for underhanded luck.

Oregon video exchange developed
Television videotapes from other community colleges in Oregon
may soon be available in the Learning Resources Center (LRC)
for use by LCC students, according to LRC Director Keith Harker.
The planned exchange of taped learning materials, said Harker,
comes as a result of an informal meeting on Oct. 24, of telecommunications (radio and television) instructors and administrators from community colleges throughout the state,
It was decided, said Harker, to meet again on Nov. 28 and
exchange lists of materials available at each school and discuss
the possibility of a more permanent organization of community
college tele-communications departments statewide.
James Brock, LRC electronic production specialist, lauded
the tape exchange plan saying, ''We could reduce on-the-shelf
inventory of tapes . . .and have a greater variety of materials to
choose from." Brock also said that the exchange program would
reduce duplication of instructional tape production between Oregon
community colleges.
Brock said that initially the exchange program would concern
only videotapes, and audio tapes would be worked into the program
later.

its boarding house license, and
with a newly appointed manager,
was in business.
"We need IO to 15 people a
night to meet expenses, but we're
only getting about 5 to 6," said
Saylor in an interview with the
TORCH three weeks ago, before
the hostel was in danger.
But last week Saylor said,

"We knew that as the winter
weather started the number of

travelers would drop off, but
we had planned on saving enough
m1ney to get us through the
winter months. As it has turned
out, we haven't been able to save
enough. The money we have saved
will run out in January."

Computer problems, Winter Term schedule ...

(Continued from page 1)
assigned scheduling slot.
He felt all returning students
will be able to get the classes
they wish, but said many instructors may find a few more
people at their doors asking for
class cards.
Following is the Winter Term
registration sch e du 1e by last
name. The TORCH will publish
this list again later in the term.
Returning Students
Wednesday, December 13, 1972
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Craig Baugh
Craig Baugh, sophomore candidate for Student Senate from
the Ethnic Studies Department,
is running unopposed.
Baugh, an electronics major,
believes that student government,.
especially the Student ·senate,
needs to effect positive changes
in attitudes towards issues which
have confused the student body.
Baugh feels that the Student
Senate should provide an opportunity for activities and services
which the Ethnic Studies Department can offer.
Baugh indicated that the parliamentary attitude of some members of the Student Senate gets
in the way of accomplishing Senate goals quickly and efficiently,
and that faster, less formal Senate meetings would be desireableo

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in student government is the
main reason Arnold Nysten, a
first year student at LCC) is
running for Student Senate.
'' I'd like to see what LCC
is all about," Nysten stated,
"and see if there is anything
I can do,'' Nysten added that he
has a clear understanding of the
job of Student Senator and feels
he can serve well as a mediator of students' gripes and suggestions, '' I consider myself a
good talker 1 afid a good listener,"
he declared.
Though this is only his first
term at LCC Nysten has already
noticed some things about student government which he as a
student representative would like
to investigate. One was the need
of better communication between
students and Student Senators,
''There doesn't seem to be
enough communication~'' he saidc
There have been many things he
said, that have happened on campus and he reads about them
in the TORCH, but he doesn't
hear about everything going on.
"I'd like to find out why this
is true."
Nysten said he had also heard
of unneccessary spending of student funds. He le2 rned, from what
he feels are reliable sources,
that l ast year a party was held
for Senate representatives, using
student funds c " That's just h 3arsay, and it might not be true,' '
he said, but he added that he
felt it was not right, and he
would make an effort to stop
unneccessary spending of this
sort if he were elected,
Since he is a political science
major, student government is
both interesting and useful as
experience for his future career
as a politician he explained.

Richard Stratton

ART and

ARCHITECTURE
SUPPLIES

Richard St rat t on, freshman
candidate for the Student Senate
from the Language Arts Department is concerned with the lack
of interest in student government.
Stratton feels that students are
not aware of, and affected by,
the actions of their representa
tives m the student Senate. He
feels that by becoming more involved in the workings of the government he will be able to ' ' find
out what is going on.'·
Oppposition to the proposed use
of the sewage lagoon by the builders of the apartment complex adjacent to the LCC campus has
drawn his praise. The effect of
the use of the lagoon ,on future
enrollment at Lane, and the desire to see the area around LCC
remain free of development, were
cited as his chief objections to the
builders' plan.

Trudy Scott

Trudy Scott, an LCC candidate for freshman Business Department senator, said she is
running for the office because
she finds senatorial work '' rewarding."
Ms, Scott said she was the
freshman senator from the Performing Arts Department last
year, but has since changed her
major.
According to Ms. Scott 1 the
Student Senate has many obstacles to overcome before they
become a more effective group.
"Nine times out of ten we
had no quorum at the meetings, "
Ms, Scott said. Another problem
with the Student Senate meetings,
according to Ms. Scott, is that
some of the senators get off
on their '' own political trip'' and
nothing is accomplished. Last
year she did work on various
committees, such as the student
handbook committee, which did
accomplish something she saidc
Ms" Scott said she also feels
that more publicity should be
given to members of the Student Senate. Acc'ording to her
most students aren't aware of
who the student senators are,
therefore, if a student has a
problem or complaint he doesn't
know who to contacL
Ms. Scott said she hopes the
new Student Senate will be a
"closer knit'' group whose primary concern is the student body
they represent.

Dave Edinger
Dave Edinger, a freshman
from the Mass Communications
Department, is running for the
Student Senate because he wants
''to help out the Communications
Department and make sure they
get their fair share of the funds . ' '
Edinger continued saying, "the
Communications Depart me n t
keeps all the other departments
together. All messages for the
o the r departments come from
Communications."
Edinger admits, "I don't know
much about the Senate, but I
think there should be better relations between the students and
the Senate. Also, I want to have
my say about what I think should
be done in all of the departments
working together."

Dale Rogers

Bernie Pinney

Bernard (Bernie) Pinney, who
is seeking election as Freshman
Senator from the Business Department, feels that Student Senate members ''don't get out
enough to talk to students.''
Pinney, if elected, would try
to change this situation by making himself open to students'
suggestions. He said that students
"need more communication"with
their representatives to feel a
part of the Senate. He noted
that student attendance at Senate
meetings is ''very poor'' but
said this is due more to lack
of publicity than to indifference.
He said he would work to
improve parking facilities at
LCC . Pinney said further that
the re are certain are as now being
used for parking that should be
paved. H e is also dissatisfied
with the bus ser.vice and said
that often busses aren't on time
thus making students who use
them l ate for classes. Pinney
said '· No bus schedules are posted around.''
Pinney stated that another goal
of his would be to see t hat
more "special events, ··concerts
and dances are scheduled at
school. He said this would create
a
'' more friendly campus,· '
Problems in the past 1 he said,
have been a "lack of organization'' and transportation, to some
extent Transportation problems
could be solved by reserving
city busses for these events .
Pinney, who grew up in Beverly Hills, California, has attended Harvard, Boston University)
and UC L A before earning his
B.A, degree in history from the
U of O. He plans to teach business at the college level and
is taking courses at LCC with
that in mind.

Lamar Sieg

'' If elected, I want to get some
field trips for the flight program,·, said candidate Lamar G.
Sieg. Sieg is running for the
newly created Student Senatrseat
in the Flight Technology Department.
Sieg explained his stand saying, "Flight Tech students now
pay $500 extra each term for
flying fees, and Senate Funded
field trips would help cut down
their costs .''
Sieg admitted that he does
not know very much about the
Senate or its operation, but said,
if el ected , he hoped to be of
some aid to the flight program.
Sieg also hopes to get the
flight program more recognition.
He explained that the program is
now unpopular and when the budg'3t comes around the administration often takes cuts out of the
program. If the program were
publicized more the enrollment
would increase. he believes, and
the result would be a better
priority with the administration .

The race for the Health and
Physical Education Department
Student Senate seat is unopposed •
Dale Rogers , a freshman majoring in business, is the only candidate running for this position.
Last year Rogers wasn't a
member of the Student Senate,
although he attended most of the
Senate meetings. By attending
the meetings, Rogers became interested in LCC ·s government
and some of the problems they
had. Therefore his reason for
running for this position is his
Carol Ach
So the nursing program can
interest-Rogers said, ''I think
I can help them, "
have representation to their fulHis main goal, if elected, is
lest and so they can find out
to find out exactly what problems
what student government is all
exist in the Health and Physical
about are two of the reasons
that Carol Ach, an associate deEducation Department. And then,
with these problems, find out how
gree nursing (ADN) student, is
the department wants to be reprunning for Student Senate poresented on those issues at the
sition for the Nursing DepartSenate meetings and try to reprement.
sent them to his best ability, he
Ms. Ach, a freshman this year
at LCC, says she would like to
explained.
He saw some of the problems
see the Nursing Department have
the Senate had last year and felt,
more representation in order to
get any problems or questions
despite these problems, it was
a good system.
aired out and dealt with in the
But Rogers feels the attitudes
best way possible. She cited that
of some of the Sentate members • the department needed someone
could be improved" Last year,
to represent them, and that this
Rogers felt that some of the memrepresentation will be helpful to
bers took on a blase attitude
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t Monday and Tuesday the A~LCC Serill conduct Fall Term elections for Seositions. Stu jents will also be asked to
a new ASLCC Constitution and By (See Editorial, Page 2),.
addition members of the Oregon Student
Inter est Rese arch Group (Cl,PIRG) will
,ed t o vote on candid ates for the LCC:; Board, and members of the Phi Theta
will vote for that organization' s offic ers.
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1didates for the OSPIRG positions are Jan
li st, Steve Paulus, Dustan E. Johnson,
e Murphy, Wes Kight and Jerry Edin.
G members must select six board members.
Idi dates for ASL CC senatorial po s i. ti on s ,
ate ments from each, are listed on these
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l ot boxes will be pl aced in the foyer of
m, the concourse ar ea of the Center
Ig1 bet ween the snac k bar and cafeteria,
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itor's note: The following column on student
m was prepared by Jay Jones, LCC student
ies director.)
e direction of student interest on college
1ses has changed considerably ovn the
E>n yea rs. We have passed the era of Greekfraternities 1 big group activities, and all
1
e extravaganzas and have moved toward
er functions where personal identity i s pos1 There is little interest in established or1tions for the sole purpose of fun and games
f-perpetuation The once popular ' ' cultural' '
~ms that filled the annual activity calendars
music, art. dance and film are all but
y now. In brief, we have moved from fun
olic to direct action and direct services .
trongest tendency is toward the establishof independent social action and political
lgroups on campus, often affiliated formally
;imilar groups in the state and nation"·'
College, Student Personnel Work in the
Ahead, 1966).
are witnessing this trend at LCC. The
process has not been as violent and obis has been the case at some other schools
hout the nation but has nonetheless been
ve and continuous. We have not had to
Vith a series of boycotts. sit-ins, picket
and other pressure tactics that some intls feel ar e necessary to campus freedoms
volvement. Without r esorting to such tacoe students at LCC are affor ded considerabl e
bnity for i nvol veme nt. We have students
of our major councils and the Board of
ion. Students are invited to participate
developmental process of most of the pr oon ca mpuse The benefits derived from such
, ments i s still questioned by students and
L. it nonetheless exists.
students have reached a new level of
ll1 invol vement and awareness. Vast camare conducted by students (individual as
s organi zed gr oups), for thei r r espec tive
candidates whether it be local , state or
tl. Most of the state and national candi are hosted by students to insure awarer what the candidate stands for (or against).
\re is heightened interest in ecology, conprotection, fair housing, legal services,
1 services, child care services, health and
programs and other community projects ,
:mally students relied on referral sources
my of these services. The trend is now
Id and manage housing projects, to hire
s whereby students have direct benefits
I tutorial and child care services in order
students have direct use of such. The
clinic follows this trend. Th e once
stud ent health insurance plan has not
~ct services to the low-incom e student, Diunding of a health clinic insures that
tudent has access to a doctor and proper
for total treatment. We witness students
,'ng and building playgrounds in neighborthat can least afford them and providing
)rtation co-ops for students who otherwise
.ot afford daily bus fare.
azingly enough, the students have followed
ind of the college. The more involved the
becomes in outreach and community prothe more interest is shown in such proby students. LCC staff and the ASLCC
ite parallel philosophically. There is a
need for each to be supportive of the
That, too, is a budding trend.
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Kenneth Twarvell

Steve Paulus
Steve Paulus. freshm an candidate for the Student Senate representing the Mechanics Department, says his objective, if elected, will be to make his vote
in the Senate represent the feelings of the majority of students
in his department.
Paulus, who is studying for a
degree in Aviation Technology,
·says he plans to communicate
as much as possible with the
students in his department regarding the proceedings in the
Student Senate. ' · The people in
my department want to know
whats going on. I'm going to have
to get around to them . •. my
vot e will be the Mechanics Department vote, not my personar
opinion" he said.
Paulus warned that the students
in his department should not expect too much fr om him at fir st.
" I don' t expect to be too effec tive
as a freshman representative.
Until I find out what's going on,"
said Paulus, ''it'll be a learning
process.·•

There is a gap in communication between LCC student government and the students, according to TV Broadcasting major Kenneth Twarvell.
Twarvell , a sophomore, is running for Student Senator for the
Mass Communications Department. Twarvell feels a senator
should talk to students in their
classes and get them involved
with what he is trying to do.
Twarvell said, " A Senator should
be a gatekeeper of communication
and s pen ct more time with students.··
For example , Twarvell feels an
organization likt> OSPIRG (Oregon Student Public Interest Resear ch Group) should be connected with ecology classes so
the student s will ac tually be involved with what ifs doing. •1 The
first yea r I was her e I felt the
student government didn't do any thing for me, and this i s what I
want to change," he explained.
'' I think Senat or s in the past
have taken their ow n biases first
and haven't taken time fo r stu dents to get involved with Stu dent Government.··

Norman McAtee
Norman McAtee, sophomore
aircraft mechanics student, has
committed himself to solving the
problem of apathy in the Mechanics Department by running
for Student Senator. He says
there are approximately 350 students in the department and to his
knowledge these students have no
representation.
McAtee is conce rned with the
spending of student body funds .
Ht> stated that he is in favor of
spending that benefits LCC students.
McAtee has been interested and
active in student government for
the two years that he has attended LCC. He has never held a Student SenatP offic e before , but
has been vice pre sident of the
Fl ying Titans, an aviation club
assoc iated with LCC,
McAtee pl ans to finish his aircr aft mechanics training Winter
Term and then transf er to the
busi n ess adm i nistration pro gram, The 24 year - ol d candi date is marri ed and has one
child.

LCC's student

Russel Ooms

Russell James Ooms, running
for a Student Senate position
from Industrial Technology, said
that "If elected, my main objective will be to create more
awareness of the interest and
conce rns of the Student Senate ,
Ooms served fo:.ir years in the
Air Force, and during that time
he worked in personnel. Ooms
commented ) ·' I witnessed many
injustices while in personnel,
but was unable to correct any
of them bec ause of the threat
of a court marshall.' '
He continued, '' The main reason these injustices could not
be corrected was there was no
organized body to represent the
enlist ed man.
• "I have a great desire to be
in a position. such as the Student
Senate, to make aware to the
students that channels exist to
voice thei r criticism, The student
government is no more than the
students' i nterest i n the student
government.'·

LCC has been compared to a
super market, where one comes
only to get his "' goods· · and then
leaves.
The explanation probably lies
somewhere in that LCC ~s .1
commuter campus , or maybe students just don ·t know enough about
what is going on in their student government. Whatever the
reasons, wondering just exactly
how prominent this attitude may
be at LCC. TORCH reporters
Ole Hoskinson and Terri Whit man walked around the LCC campus, camera and tape r ecorder

John Mason
' ' The Physical Education Department gets a raw deal from
the Board of Education,'' stated
John Mason, who is running for
a sophomore seat on the Student Senate from the Department.
Mason said he would like to
set up a ct :!Cent physical education program. He also commented
that, u Lane doesn't have a football team, and last year they
couldn't even send the track team
to the national finals, but the
band went. There is a lack of
communication between the PE
Department and the Bo1rd."
But Mason feels that the present student government is doing
a better job than last yearsthere is more communication between the Board and the students,
he said,
Mason is in his fifth year of
school. Before coming to Lane
he attended Fresno State, Chico
State, and San Jose St ate coll eg·es . He quit school after atte ndi ng San Jose Stat e for t wo
yea r s, and moved to Oregon and
began attend ing L an e as a phys ical educat i on major.

body president

in hand, and approached several
students with these questions:
(1) What do you think of our
student government ? (2) Do you
L~el that students government is
relevant to your eduration?(3)
Are you voting · in tile student
elections'? (4) Are you voting for
or against the Constitution ? ( 5)
Do you know who our stud ent body
president is ?
0 : the ten peopl e approached,
only one replied "Jay Bolton, ·'
when asked who th e student body
presid ent was , Nobody else was
familiar with him other than a
foreign student who asked, ' ·Is
his name Jay'? "
None of the students knew anythi ng ab::> u t the electi ons originall y schedul ed to be hel d th i s
week, (The el ections have been
del ayed two weeks, see story
this page), and most co mmon
repl y to voting on the constitution
was, " I'll have to r ead U) on i t
befo r e I can v;ote,' '

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dents. One student said, ·'I think
that it needs to be there, but
I'm not participating in it or
anything like that.'' The response
was pretty well divided between
the yeses and no ' s, On the nega tive side, one stud ent said. '·No,
I think that it is mostly a training ground for politicians , , ,I
am interested in government but
not politics,'' And on the very neg8 tive side, a female general arts
maJor said, '' No, I don't know
about it, and since I don ' t know
about it, it must not be very im portant so therefore I don't think
it is needed,''

As far as an opini on on the
LCC student government seven
out of ten peopl e interviewed
answered that they ''didn' t know
much about i t,·, Some opinions
expressed were: " I think the v are
pr etty typical of our future politi-

Westly Kight

'' I would like to promote more
student influence and change the
pr esent system of gr ading at
LCC/ 1 sai d Westly Kight , a candidate fro m the Indust rial Tec hnol ogy Department running for
the Student Senate.
Kight, a second year student
majoring in construction technology, felt the students at L CC
haven't enough control ove r the
wa v that school policies are made .
He sa id '' The gr ading system
is better than it used to be,
but it needs more imp r ovementmaking the grades ·A· through
'C' and Re-cycle would be much
better , '·
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Kigh t ran for Second Vice
President last year as a writein candidate but was unsucc essful in that bid.

ci ans. I suppose you have to have
t_raining for peopl e like that. ·'
A radio broadcasting student of-

Judy Carnese

(Speaking about student government's r el evancy to her education). " Since I don' t know about
i t, it must not be very important, ·'

fered, " It's okay."

" Is student government r el evant to your education?" provoked a bett er r esponse f rom stu-

Mohammed Sarhan
'' Yes, I think I know him.
Is his name Jay ?"

Norman Yates
Running without competition 1
for the freshman Student Senate
seat from the Ethnic Studies
Department is Norm an Yates.
Yates, an educ ation major,
feels that since the formation
of the Ethnic Studies Department
has been formalized, representation of ethnic minorities on
campus should be centralized
through the Student Senate.
Yates' invol vement in campus
politics i s the result of hi s observation that the Ethnic Studi es
Depart ment cou l d be a focal point
for ethnic activities, which coul d
in turn, be a se r vice to L CC
students.

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Elizabeth Dalebout

'' . • • all I want to do is get what
I can and get out."

Rodney
'' Our student body president ?
Kenny Walker?"

Cheryl Nelson
" l! m not well enough info rmed
rP ally. I'd like to be, I don't
exactly know wher e to get the
information.''

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Last week the LCC cross country team competed against more
than 50 schools and won the national championship-not just the
conference title, or even the regional crown. but the best that the
Titans could achieve: number one in the nation.
Somebody should have told the Eugene Register Guard. The
story concerning the win in the Register Guard looked more like
a classified advertisement.
LCC has very rarely received reasonable coverage from the
community newspaper, especially in the area of athletics. Long
dominated by University of Oregon events, LCC could not even
break that tradition with a national crown. The Titans received
about as much print as did a football game between two Class A,
eight-man high school teams. Lane athletes are well aware that
University athletics are considered much more newsworthy than
LCC athletics in the Register Guard book of priorities, but it's a
little disheartening to win a national championship and come home
to a city that doesn't even know about it.

****

For the first time in many years the University of Oregon did
what the rating services predicted they would do. They beat the
Beavers, amazing as that may seem.
It was due to the mental state of the Ducks, according to veteran
players and the coaching staff. Try as they might the Beavers were
unable to psyche the young Oregon team. And the Beavers did try.
Jogging out behind the puffing Dee Andros who had "guaranteed"
the win, the Staters started a psyche-up show that resembled a
circus from t)le stands-masses of CEU players leaping all over
each other complete with the marching band blaring the fight song
into their ears from five feet away. It was amazing to the U of 0
fan who is used to a little more dignified approach to the game, but
the Beaver crowd ate it upo
Oregon took the fun out of the OSU circus, however, on the
first U of O play from scrimmageo Little Don Reynolds burst
through a big hole in the line and galloped 60 yards for a touchdown.
That essentially was the story of the game as the Ducks completely
outplayed Oregon State in every phase of the game. It just goes to
show, Dee Andros, that it takes more than theatricals to win
football games.

****

The fall cross country-track season is over now for the
Titans. Lane closed it out Saturday by hosting the United States
Track and Field Federation Cross County M,2,9t and routinely
won it, hands down. In the Small College Division, LCC swept the
first three places with Bill Cram, Randy Griffith and Dale Hammitt
taking the honors, scoring 16 points to the Oregon College of Education's 50 points. Those and other athletes of Al Tarpenning's
track and field team will now move to trac'k workouts, and the challenge of duplicating their cross country achievements in the track
and field circuit.

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by Lalana Rhine
(Editor)s Note: TORCH Sports
Writer Lalana Rhine traveled to
Canada with the women's team
last weekend.)
The LCC women's field hockey
team traveled to Canada Thursday
through Sunday to participate in
the Northwest Women's Field
Hockey Tournament held at the
University of Victoria.
LCC came out of the tournament with a record of 2 wins, 1
tie, and 1 loss.
Among the 12 teams participating, LCC played four games, one
each against Everett Community
College, Pacific Lutheran University, the University of Puget
Sound, and Centralia Community
College.
On Friday LCC lost their first
game with Pacific Lutheran University (PL U) 2 to 1. According
to !,.,CC Coach Audrey Brown,
PLU was one of the stronger
teams in the tournament.
With about 10 minutes gone in
the first half PLU's Peg Loverin
scored a go~l to put PL U ahead.
Five minutes later after LCC had
the ball in front ~f PL U' s goal
ready to score, Loverin stole the
ball dribbled down the field and
sco:ed yet another goal for PL U.
But three minutes later, LCC's
right-inner Sue Mitchell had the
ball off to the right of PLU's goal.
A slap shot toward the goal
bounced off the stick of a PLU
player for a score. The first half
ended 2 to 1.
At the start of the second half,
PL U scored a goal which was nullified because of a PLU offsides
offense. And through the rest of
the half both teams had several
chances to score but penalties
stymied all attempts. PLU won
the game 2 to L
In the next game played later
that afternoon, LCC opposed Everett Community College (ECC).

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The game ended scoreless.
Early in the first half,, Everett
kept LCC down at LCC s end of
the field. But later in the game,
LCC turned the actio_n around and
had ECC down at their end of the
field, !aking several chances to
score m both halves of the game.
On Saturday LCC's first game
was against the University of
Puget Sound (UPS), which, with
the scoring of LCC's Penny
Shoop, LCC won 5 to 0.
Within 13 minutes of the first
half, Ms. Shoop had scored three
goals ending the half 3 to O.
Late in the second half, LCC
center Pam Summers scored with
a slap shot on a pass from Sue
Mitchell. With just two minutes
left in the game, Penny Shoop
scored her fourth goal in the game
on slap shot from the top of the
striking circle, and the game
ended 5 to O.
LCC's last game ofthetournamen! was a3t?lwinoverCentralla Commumty College (CCC)
later Saturday.
With 18 minutes gone in the
first half, Sue Mitchell had scored
twice to put LCC out in front.
Then with about eight minutes left
in the half, Ms. Mitchell again
scored to give LCC 3 points.
CCC started the second half o.ut
with a goal by their inner half
Alida Godfrey on a dribble shot,

but LCC could not score in the
balance of the match, The final
score was 3 to 1.
"I'm really happy with how
the team played in the tournament, 1 ' said Coach Brown. '' They
played good field hockey and have
improved enormously. other
team coaches and players even
C'ommented on how good we
played."

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nmgs for b_oth men and women will
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Sign-u:;:> sheets and m~ps of th,~
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B,)o Creed, in th,~ Physical Ednoon.
m each of t?e locke~ rooms. For
The competition will com~u \ ~ ~er mformatwn ; 0 ncernucation Department Office, or by
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November 21, 1972 TORCH Page 7

Nursing students take

LCC instructor appears in 'Life' intervie\Y
LCC careers survey follo\Ying family vacation across country
The majority of LCC's nursing
students plan to work in com=
munity or general hospitals and
most of them are satisfied with
LCC •s nurse training program
according to a survey taken by
about 100 students in both the
Registered Nursing (RN) and Licensed Practical Nursing (LPN)
programs at LCC.
The survey, conducted Nov.
6 and 71 asked the nursing
students if they were confronting
any problems in the nursing profession, if they were in school
for a reason other than just
something to do and the main
reason they became interested
in nursing.
Of the students from the two
groups, more LPN students chose
work in community hospitals and
general hospitals than did RN
students. Most of the RN students
said they would like to work
in such areas as private offices,
assisting a physician, governmental service or clinics.
One of the questions on the
survey asked the students if they
had any problems in school. The
main problem, according to the
survey results, seemed to be
finances and school studies.
When asked how they would deal
with these problems, the majority
of the RN students said they would
look for solutions other than
counseling or loans. But, according to the survey, LPN students
seemed more willing to accept
counseling and loans as a means
of aid.
The survey indicated that although both RN and LPN students were interested in nursing
in general, more LPN students
chose nursing to fulfill their
self-interests, and more RN
students felt that a care for humanity was most important.

eral pictures, and that it was
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another ten years before doing
it again). But every once in a
while something very exciting and
unusual happens to you, as it
did with George Al vergue, LCC
instructor of Social Science.
While on a cross country vacation with his family, Alvergue
made a habit of stopping at Kampgrounds of America, (KOA). At
one of these campgrounds near
the Hoover Memorial in Iowa,
Al vergue was busily setting up
his tent in the middle of a
large field when he was approached by a man who Alvergue
recalls as "a large and friendly
man. " The visitor made small

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A similar contest was held recently in Hartford, Conn., and the
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for 187 hours-nearly eight days.
Alfonso is also holding a contest
in which people who are less
hardy can guess what the winning
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GI Bill students with academic problems can get Veterans Administration fmanced tutoring more easily unde the provisions of a
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course to be eligible for a VA-paid tutor. It also made tutoring available for the first time to wives, widows and children studying under
the agency's Dependents' Educational Assistance program.
Tutorial assistance first became available in March 1970 under
Public Law 91-219. It was designed for veterans and servicemen
studying on a half-time or more basis at post secondary level who
needed help in passing courses essential to their programs of education.
Under the new law, however, VA pays tutors for the actual time
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talk and asked a few questions
about K'JA. The man was John
Neary of Life Magazine, who
was writing a feature article
on KOA. The conversation resulted in Alvergue's words being
read by thousands of people all
over the nation.

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LCC ignores many facts ,n

Page 8 TORCH November 21, 1972

By Jim Worlein

(Editor's note: The following story is the second of
a three-part analysis of LCC's new welding program
by TORCH News Editor Jim Worlein. Next week Worlein will examine the question of "politics in the
Industrial Technology Department?")
On June 1 and 2, 1971, representatives from Oregon
Technical Institute (OTI) in Klamath Falls made an
evaluation of LCC's Welding Technology Program. Their
subsequent report played a major role in the decision
to re-construct the program.
When students came to LCC this fall the Welding
Technology Program wa;; drastically changed (see
TORCH, Oct. 3 and Nov. 14). Proper procedures were
not followed nor was· information on the change adequately distributed to students enrolled in the program
until two weeks after classes began. A special section
was set up for second year welding students who wished
to continue with the old program, but many first and
second year students have set out to get the old program
back or have the new program changed in many areas.
Don Miller, chairman of OTl Department of Metals
Processing Technology, and Ray Prevost, OTI dean

ANALYSIS
of faculty, conducted their survey as a rt!sult of a
request made by former LCC Associate Dean of Instruction Ray La Grandeur for consultation services in
evaluating Lane's Welding Technology program.
Bud Land, LCC Industrial-Technology Department ·
chairman, in an interview with the TORCH, defended
his decision to change the program saying that, "The
OTI Report said that we had a metallurgy, chemistry,
physics, and engineering program, but no welding technology as such."
The TORCH questioned staff members in th,3 Department who had read the report and found there was a
difference of opinion on its validity and exactly what
it said.
Under Section II., "Objectives and Purposes", the
document reads, "At the present time the Welding
Technology Department objectives as stated in the
1971-72 catalog are satisfactory." But the report does
go on to say that a "reorganization of present course
requirements will be necessary to accomplish the dual
purpose."
This "dual purpose'' is to "produce a terminal
P·:>lnt for the manpower student at the end of the first
year," but also to be flexible enough to meet the individual needs of the welding technology major, not just

the needs of the local employers.
In fact, the report also says, "The students from the
present program appear to be above the level of the
community needs and below the technical transfer
requirements."
And Section VIII of the report deals with the controversial Welding Lay Advisory Committee. The document reported that the Advisory Committee didn't "like
the curriculum", that they didn't "want technically
trained employees'', and that they didn't "feel the welding
staff was qualified."
But the report said that giving the advisory committee
a major say in program development "places curriculum
development in the wrong hands."
The report goes on about the advisory committee
saying, '' The Advisory Committee should never be
forced into a position of being educational experts or
curriculum specialists. The presentation of the curriculum must show the Advisory Committee a professional
approach of satisfying their needs as well as m,~eting
the objectives of the entire school and individual Cl,lrriculum. The Advisory Committee does not understand
the overall objectives of community college education,
especially as it relates to technology. They feel it is
their (the community's) school and their needs were not
met at the old vocational school or even more emphatically by the University. Performance m'1st be used
as a basis of communication. The Committee felt strongly
that metallurgy has no place in the welding curriculum,
yet did want students to recognize physical features or'
materials ... ''
The report recommends that the Advisory Committe:~
be broadened to include people from other areas."
(The Committee is almost identical now as when the
report was prepared.)
In the section concerning placement, the report
said that, "the Advisory Committee needs to be aware
of the total educational concept of community college
education. . . to give its students the educational background to contribute to and be responsible members
of a democratic society."
At this point it might also be said that not once in
the report did it condemn (or even mention) the certification of students and their training on pipe.
This is a major point of conflict. The students, and
some instructors, feel that students should be able to
get certification during the day program and be able
to practice on pipe, Under the new program, the only
way the students can be certified is at night under the
Adult Education Program (which many students can't
attend due to job and family commitments plus Vets
attending school on the GI Bill can not receive GI
payments for the Adult Eduation Program) and they

Packnett selects

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The administration has the opposite viewpoint. The
OTI Report gives s•)ffit? answers -but raises some questions. As of yet 1 the objectives of the program are not
fully defined. As the report puts it, '' The level of the
program is determined by its objectives. The quality
of the program is further determined by how well it
achieves these objectives/'

Hono'r students to elect officers

Board of Tellers

Chuck Packnett, ASLCC first
vice-president, announced last
week the selection of a Board
of Tellers for the upcoming student government elections. The
appointments were the center of
controversy last week when the
editor of the TORCH challenged
and caused the Student Senate
elections to be rescheduled because Packnett had failed to appoint the Board within the required time.
The elections are now officially planned for Monday and
Tuesday of next week, Nov. 27
and 28. The Board of Tellers
will supervise election procedures and ballot counting.
The Board of Tellers declares
the eligibility of all candidates
and issues prior to nominations,
supervises all student elections,
and certifies the results.
Immediately after the board
tabulates the election returns,
they announce the winning candidates, compile records of all
candidates and votes cast for
each, and retain them for one
term. Th,~se results are open
for inspection by any student
body member.
Election protests must be presented to the Board of Tellen
within 24 hours after the elect~
ion.
Pa::knett commented any stud ,mt wishing to talk to the board
should contact him first since
h? is chairman of the board.

only work with flat pieces of metal. The students
feel that pipe is best because that's the material
with which they must take a certification test and because
pipe enables a student to learn to weld in all positions.
But Land says that neither are important for local
employer needs.
The report also recognized that there was a communication breakdown between the staff and the administration. This point may help to explain the splitting of the
department into two camps, one for, and one against,
the new program.
A "leader" was suggested by the report to help
give the program some direction. Last summer Land
hired Tom Arthur as lead instructor. Students and
instructors have voiced their displeasure to administrators on Arthur's abilities as an instructor. (Arthur
was paid to write a learning packet for the class, and
the textbooks the students were ordinarily to use were
sent back. Students and instructors are still waiting
to get the packets.)
Two and one-half pages of the 17 page report are
devoted to what may be the crux of the whole hassle-proper curriculum placement and a students' capabilities. It raises the question of some instructors'
fears that welding technology "may be a counseling
dumping ground, yet they (the instructors) feel they
are under pressure to turn out students who will fit
carefully into one skill level (page 14). "It goes to
say that, "Overall coordination of the total student
program is missing."
In the report's recommendations to alleviate this
problem it points out that at the time the report was
written, a student could complete the program with
little or no work in English, math, and science, and that
the program should build these stregths, not avoid
them.
'' True techuical education is defined as college
level training," the report says.
The program is now geared for local employmenL
The report quotes a study saying that 73 per cent of
LCC's graduates are employed in the Eugene-Springfield
area. The students in welding realize th1t this is probably the case, but feel that this attitude taken by the
administration is un-fair to them. One student in the
program. for instance 1 plans to go to Alaska for work.

At this time there are four
candidates running: Stan Nielsen
for association president, Rich
Marshall and Rhonda Harwood for
vice-president, Sheila Rose, for
secretary treasurer. Association members who wish to run for
any of the three offices must apply
at the Financial Aids Office by
Wednesday,

Only certified members of the
group can vote in the Phi Theta
Kapp a elections. Identification
cards must be presented at the
time of voting, but those who do
have no identification cards or
certificates may pick them up
in the Financial Aids Office.
Phi Theta Kappa has been on
campus for about three years,
with a current membership between 100 and 200 students. Requirements for membership include sustaining a 3.5 grade point
average and paying $15 dues per
year.

ON . OTHER CAMPUSES,
The content in the regular student course handbook at Shoreline Community College in Seattle, Washington is about to be
changed. Shoreline's student government is preparing a "Course
Content Catalog" designed to give an instructor's evaluation of
his various courses and their content, including such information
as the number of tests, required reading, the grade system, and
what, if any, term and research projects are normally assigned.

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This won't hurt one bit

Students and staff at LCC donated 16 pints of blood last week during
the Lane County bloodmobile's quarterly visit to the campus. The
blood will be deposited in LCC's "account" at the Lane Memorial
Blood Bank in Eugene. Since 1969, when LCC began participation
in the bloodmobile program, college students and personnel have
donated 242 pints of blood. Nearly 100 pints have been used by the
community, 75 pints by students and staff, and another 72 pints
have been set aside for future use. LCC student Guy J. Hankins
prepares himself as Nurse Isabel Benson gets ready to draw a
pint of blood from him. (Photo by Lenn Lethlean)

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Blue Mountain Community College President Wallace McCrae
announced that a para-professional program in the human services
field has been accredited by the Pregon State Department of Education. This program will enable graduates of the two-year curriculum to receive associate of science degrees and to qualify for
work in state hospitals, mental health clinics, nursing homes, and in
other medical service areas.

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With the day of the male centerfold at hand, the College of San
Mateo does not want to be left behind. The college newspaper,
the San Mate an, is sponsoring the search for the "body beautiful."
The requirements for the contest are to be carrying a minimum of
three credits, to be a certified male, and to be photogenic. It is
interesting that the newspaper lists two women as the people to be
contacted for further information and photography appointments.